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Ron 09-25-2007 12:24 PM

Can Rebellion Ever Be Justified?
 
The Bible says,

1Pe 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;


1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

These two scriptures say that we should submit unto kings and that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.

That being said, how in the light of these scriptures can one "scripturally" defend the original colonies rebellion against King George's rule and the Revolutionary war?

Remember, I am neither a Monarchist nor a defender of King George, I just wonder how in light of scripture can one justify Rebellion?

This should be interesting!:hypercoffee

RevDWW 09-25-2007 12:36 PM

Hmmm........

Was it rebellion for the Israelites to want to leave Pharaoh and Egypt for the promised land?

David did not allow Saul to kill him and lead men away from Saul. Was that rebellion?

Was it rebellious for Jesus to teach against the Pharisaical system that was in power in His day?

Ron 09-25-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 250008)
Hmmm........

Was it rebellion for the Israelites to want to leave Pharaoh and Egypt for the promised land?

David did not allow Saul to kill him and lead men away from Saul. Was that rebellion?

Was it rebellious for Jesus to teach against the Pharisaical system that was in power in His day?

Interesting...

But....none of those scriptures involved "Armed Conflict" in rebellion.

Moses, Jesus, & David all let God fight for them-did he not?:hypercoffee

Praxeas 09-25-2007 12:41 PM

Paul also said
Rom 12:18 If it is possible, as far as is in you, being in peace with all men.

And Peter said
Act 5:29 And Peter and the apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Praxeas 09-25-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 250014)
Interesting...

But....none of those scriptures involved "Armed Conflict" in rebellion.

Moses, Jesus, & David all let God fight for them-did he not?:hypercoffee

They engaged in Armed Conflict to kick the pagans out of the land they were to inherit

RevDWW 09-25-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 250014)
Interesting...

But....none of those scriptures involved "Armed Conflict" in rebellion.

Moses, Jesus, & David all let God fight for them-did he not?:hypercoffee

So it's only rebellion if it involves armed conflict?

Praxeas 09-25-2007 01:00 PM

Did anyone define what rebellion means?

Praxeas 09-25-2007 01:03 PM

BTW is Rebellion simply the act of doing bellion all over again? :killinme

Ron 09-25-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 250020)
They engaged in Armed Conflict to kick the pagans out of the land they were to inherit

It was the Crown that set up the Colonies.:hypercoffee

Ron 09-25-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 250019)
Paul also said
Rom 12:18 If it is possible, as far as is in you, being in peace with all men.

And Peter said
Act 5:29 And Peter and the apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

So God authorized the rebellion against the Crown?
Didn't he contradict his word?:hypercoffee


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