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Praxeas 01-05-2008 07:31 PM

No-Go areas for non-Muslims in the UK
 
LONDON — Islamic extremism in Britain has created communities that are "no-go areas" for non-Muslims, a Pakistani-born Church of England bishop said in The Sunday Telegraph.

Michael Nazir-Ali, the bishop of Rochester, told the newspaper that Britain's policies of multiculturalism have created separate Muslim communities that fail to integrate into mainstream society.

"There has been a worldwide resurgence of the ideology of Islamic extremism. One of the results of this has been to further alienate the young from the nation in which they were growing up and also to turn already separate communities into `no-go' areas where adherence to this ideology has become a mark of acceptability," said Nazir-Ali.

"Those of a different faith or race may find it difficult to live or work there because of hostility to them," he said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,320507,00.html

Pastor Keith 01-05-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 348950)
LONDON — Islamic extremism in Britain has created communities that are "no-go areas" for non-Muslims, a Pakistani-born Church of England bishop said in The Sunday Telegraph.

Michael Nazir-Ali, the bishop of Rochester, told the newspaper that Britain's policies of multiculturalism have created separate Muslim communities that fail to integrate into mainstream society.

"There has been a worldwide resurgence of the ideology of Islamic extremism. One of the results of this has been to further alienate the young from the nation in which they were growing up and also to turn already separate communities into `no-go' areas where adherence to this ideology has become a mark of acceptability," said Nazir-Ali.

"Those of a different faith or race may find it difficult to live or work there because of hostility to them," he said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,320507,00.html

People should check out the undercover videos taken inside a British Mosque, Godtube has them, just type Islam.

The second most popular name for baby boys in England is Muhammed. Europe is in deep trouble, within 20 years Moslems will control what was the historical seat of Christianity.

TRFrance 01-05-2008 09:02 PM

The Religion of Peace?
 
Islam is going to be problem for Europe. A serious problem.

These pics are from a 2006 demonstration in London.

http://warmonger.mu.nu/archives/picthree.jpg
http://warmonger.mu.nu/archives/picseven.jpg
http://warmonger.mu.nu/archives/piceight.jpghttp://warmonger.mu.nu/archives/picfour.jpg
http://warmonger.mu.nu/archives/picone.jpg

Jekyll 01-05-2008 10:49 PM

And Barack Obama is a serious presidential candidate???

Praxeas 01-05-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him (Post 349041)
People should check out the undercover videos taken inside a British Mosque, Godtube has them, just type Islam.

The second most popular name for baby boys in England is Muhammed. Europe is in deep trouble, within 20 years Moslems will control what was the historical seat of Christianity.

I agree and what happened in Lebenon will happen in the EU. They are in deep trouble and we are next

Praxeas 01-05-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349209)
And Barack Obama is a serious presidential candidate???

Barack is not a muslim.

Jekyll 01-05-2008 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 349269)
Barack is not a muslim.

He already has shown his disdain for the plegde of allegiance. I'm not excited to see the sympathy he has for islam or for any possible alliances with the leaders in the M.E.

I absolutely do not trust him. He's all for "peace" and those guys that voice peace the most are usually the first ones with junk up their sleeves.

Praxeas 01-05-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349289)
He already has shown his disdain for the plegde of allegiance. I'm not excited to see the sympathy he has for islam or for any possible alliances with the leaders in the M.E.

How did he show his disdain for the pledge of allegiance? JWs don't say the pledge btw and that does not make them Muslims

When and where did he show sympathy for Islam? What alliances did he show he has with leaders in the M.E.?

Jekyll 01-05-2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 349294)
How did he show his disdain for the pledge of allegiance? JWs don't say the pledge btw and that does not make them Muslims

When and where did he show sympathy for Islam? What alliances did he show he has with leaders in the M.E.?

I don't trust him. These things are possible with any candidate. Even probable. I happen to think that they are most likely with him.

Praxeas 01-05-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349311)
I don't trust him. These things are possible with any candidate. Even probable. I happen to think that they are most likely with him.

Yes....but you are not giving coherent reasons why. You made assertions, I asked you to validate them and the above is your respose. That sounds irrational to me, sorry.

Jekyll 01-06-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 349323)
Yes....but you are not giving coherent reasons why. You made assertions, I asked you to validate them and the above is your respose. That sounds irrational to me, sorry.

Sorry I didn't say this earlier. This is total opinion and assertion. Not irrational, I don't think. Now to say that B.O. would pardon Osama Bin Laden would be irrational.

TRFrance 01-06-2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 349268)
I agree and what happened in Lebenon will happen in the EU. They are in deep trouble and we are next

Not sure if we're "next".
The Muslim population is a lot smaller here than in Europe.

Praxeas 01-06-2008 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 349406)
Not sure if we're "next".
The Muslim population is a lot smaller here than in Europe.

It is a growing population with increasing political power movement
http://www.cair.com/

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/islami...ichael-savage/

pelathais 01-06-2008 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349209)
And Barack Obama is a serious presidential candidate???

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349289)
He already has shown his disdain for the plegde of allegiance. I'm not excited to see the sympathy he has for islam or for any possible alliances with the leaders in the M.E.

I absolutely do not trust him. He's all for "peace" and those guys that voice peace the most are usually the first ones with junk up their sleeves.

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349311)
I don't trust him. These things are possible with any candidate. Even probable. I happen to think that they are most likely with him.

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349388)
Sorry I didn't say this earlier. This is total opinion and assertion. Not irrational, I don't think. Now to say that B.O. would pardon Osama Bin Laden would be irrational.

You're so funny Jekyll! Keep it up.

You do realize that Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ?

You apparently realize that bin Laden has not been convicted of a crime in the U.S. so to "pardon" him would be irrational. That's accurate, however the way you got to the accuracy was interesting, to say the least.

Jekyll 01-06-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 349425)
You're so funny Jekyll! Keep it up.

You do realize that Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ?

You apparently realize that bin Laden has not been convicted of a crime in the U.S. so to "pardon" him would be irrational. That's accurate, however the way you got to the accuracy was interesting, to say the least.

Big deal...Prez Clinton was best friends with AM...big deal.

I am not trying to prove anything here. Just gave a good ole opinion.

I hope you're still laughing when our 1st amenment rights are taken away as Christians because mentioning God or Jesus would ignite civil unrest in muslim controlled-er-dominated communities.

Praxeas 01-06-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 349534)
Big deal...Prez Clinton was best friends with AM...big deal.

I am not trying to prove anything here. Just gave a good ole opinion.

I hope you're still laughing when our 1st amenment rights are taken away as Christians because mentioning God or Jesus would ignite civil unrest in muslim controlled-er-dominated communities.

Obama is not a Muslim that is friends with Christians. He is a NOT a Muslim that IS a member of a Christian church. I think that was Pels point.

Your last statement is again totally baseless. You might as well accuse Obama of being a Martian plotting an alien invasion from Mars as you have about as much reason to believe that too.

Jekyll 01-06-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 349567)
Obama is not a Muslim that is friends with Christians. He is a NOT a Muslim that IS a member of a Christian church. I think that was Pels point.

Your last statement is again totally baseless. You might as well accuse Obama of being a Martian plotting an alien invasion from Mars as you have about as much reason to believe that too.

Nice try, but that last statement has a whole lot more merit than alien talk, come on. The clamps are being put on what preachers can call sin. Today, can't say homosexuality is a sin, can't advocate corporal punishment. Tomorrow what are we not going to be able to say?

I never said B.O. was a Muslim. Do we know exactly what his background is and who his closest friends are? Do you know how many senators have taken oath over the koran? This islamic problem is under the surface waiting to boil over globally.


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