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freeatlast 02-11-2008 04:27 PM

Big church trouble, PO-LICE called in.
 
ROCK ISLAND, Illinois -- A historic church in Rock Island is once again trying to repair the relationship between two families after a fight broke out at a mediation Sunday.

Moments before Bishop Marshall was set to arrive to mediate between the Parson and Arrington families at the Pentecostal church, another fight broke out.

Deacon Steve Parson, held back from the Arrington family as words of anger were exchanged.

"I'm at a crossroad of what can be the next step, only that I have given them instruction that it's needless for them to try and worship in same building" said Bishop Marshall.

In a closed door meeting with the familes Sunday, Bishop Cody Marshall says the adults were more willing to cooperate than the kids.

"I was successful in getting some of the people that were older to ask for forgiveness of each other" said Bishop Marshall.

"It stems from children and grandchildren, which I only got a portion to standup and say they would stop fighting" continued Bishop Marshall.

Although Rock Island police attended Sunday's meeting to prevent further incidences they say they are, "leaving it up to the church to mediate this between the two families."

The next step Bishop Marshall says, may be a change in pastors but also makes note the issues do not lay in the hands of the pastor. Therefore, a change may still mean problems between families.

"I thought one family should no longer try to attend that church." Bishop Marshall went on to say, "If people keep fighting each other there's a possibility someone will lose their life."
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freeatlast 02-11-2008 04:29 PM

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Article from our local paper this weekend.

There was also vidieo footage of the brawl on the evening news.

Great publicity, eh?

Anybody ever see trouble like this before in a Pentecostal church?

Pressing-On 02-11-2008 04:36 PM

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Uh, Yes! Four black uniformed cops opened the double doors at the back, in unison, and stood erect and important in the back during a business meeting.

The "other side" had threatened a fight. I don't know who called the police.

freeatlast 02-11-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 386784)
Uh, Yes! Four black uniformed cops opened the double doors at the back, in unison, and stood erect and important in the back during a business meeting.

The "other side" had threatened a fight. I don't know who called the police.

Mercy...how sad.

freeatlast 02-11-2008 04:39 PM

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I heard the church was pastored by a Rev. Ogatt


































Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just kidding

Pressing-On 02-11-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 386786)
Mercy...how sad.

Yes, it was pretty embarrassing. But God took care of that. We tried to leave several times, but God kept telling my husband to stay.

One Sunday morning we were actually heading out of town. The first traffic light we came to before leaving the city limits he started turning around. I said, "What are you doing?"

"God told me to go back."

We did see the victory.

Angry, carnal men are very scary people!

Pressing-On 02-11-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 386787)
I heard the church was pastored by a Rev. Ogatt


































Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just kidding

I guarantee it wasn't. That other man wasn't half as bright. :toofunny

ogatt 02-11-2008 04:46 PM

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First problem here is these heatherns probably have TV. It causes violence
Second of all the pastor should have cleaned their clock up front. See what mercy and grace preaching gets ya? Throw a pentecostal praises songbook at them new convert heatherns for the first few services then all i gotta do is pick it up!

Maybe they ought to set up a pool table and sell moonshine. I been in juke joints safer than that

Pressing-On 02-11-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ogatt (Post 386793)
First problem here is these heatherns probably have TV. It causes violence
Second of all the pastor should have cleaned their clock up front. See what mercy and grace preaching gets ya? Throw a pentecostal praises songbook at them new convert heatherns for the first few services then all i gotta do is pick it up!

Maybe they ought to set up a pool table and sell moonshine. I been in juke joints safer than that

LOL! He would have to have cleaned his own clock and gotten rid of his harem.

freeatlast 02-11-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ogatt (Post 386793)
First problem here is these heatherns probably have TV. It causes violence
Second of all the pastor should have cleaned their clock up front. See what mercy and grace preaching gets ya? Throw a pentecostal praises songbook at them new convert heatherns for the first few services then all i gotta do is pick it up!

Maybe they ought to set up a pool table and sell moonshine. I been in juke joints safer than that

There's the proof right there folks.....we have all went cruiseomatic with a fancy overhead projectors throwning the words to our sacred songs up that hollywood big screen.

It leaves us with no songbooks to throw at the new saints.

How will we ever get these new ones to become obedient if we ain't got no song books. :girlytantrum

CC1 02-11-2008 04:56 PM

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What flavor of Pentecostal is this church? UPC? PAW? COGIC? AOG? IND.?

freeatlast 02-11-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 386806)
What flavor of Pentecostal is this church? UPC? PAW? COGIC? AOG? IND.?

:stirpot does it matter? :toofunny

CC1 02-11-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 386809)
:stirpot does it matter? :toofunny

Trying to make sure it is not Solid Rock Ministries in Long Island founded by my friend and former Nashville Associate Pastor Phil Goldsberry.

AmazingGrace 02-11-2008 05:55 PM

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At the church I grew up in we had a couple bouts with the law having to be called in... once was a husband and wife who were divorcing due to him being very violent and a drunk... well our nursery was in a building behind the main sanctuary... All the sudden we notice all the ushers run out and then a few min later we hear sirens.. and a few min later he (father) comes in holding the baby... The police came in and were able to get the baby fortunately he didnt have a weapon.. he did however go to the nursery and take the baby by force...

He came back another time with a gun... the ushers were very big men and took him down very fast... not recommended but you hadta see these usher dudes!!!

Very scary but then again our church was right by downtown and the very over populated homeless area and we had a lot of drama all the time due to these 2 factors

freeatlast 02-11-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 386840)
At the church I grew up in we had a couple bouts with the law having to be called in... once was a husband and wife who were divorcing due to him being very violent and a drunk... well our nursery was in a building behind the main sanctuary... All the sudden we notice all the ushers run out and then a few min later we hear sirens.. and a few min later he (father) comes in holding the baby... The police came in and were able to get the baby fortunately he didnt have a weapon.. he did however go to the nursery and take the baby by force...

He came back another time with a gun... the ushers were very big men and took him down very fast... not recommended but you hadta see these usher dudes!!!

Very scary but then again our church was right by downtown and the very over populated homeless area and we had a lot of drama all the time due to these 2 factors



I knew of a brother Murray...think it was in Arkansas that was ushering when a gunmen came in to church..

They took him down pretty quick.


But the church in Illinois that is in the news has had this same fued going on between these two families for years according to the news.

pelathais 02-11-2008 08:13 PM

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We hosted a funeral once for a kid who had attended Sunday School many years before. In his teen years he joined a gang and was killed playing "Russian Roulette" with a shotgun (don't ask, I have no idea). A local court ruled that his cousin could attend the funeral. The cousin was some sort of notorious gang leader in protective custody. I had to help the sheriff's department map everthing out in advance. We sat the cousin alone with his guards in the balcony.

In the hall behind the balcony were deputies with those little knock-off MP5 machine pistol clones. And then my kids - just toddlers at the time, ended up having to stay upstairs with the deputies. That was about the most hardware that I ever saw in a church before. I was told that there were police snipers around the church, but I didn't see any sign of them. The building itself was ringed by police cars.

Only been in one actual brawl during church. A guy was "shacking up" with this woman he had met there at church. They were by no means "members" of the church, just people who would come around from time to time. One day this fellow comes into church and the head usher, a rather problematic individual himself at times, ask about "the wifey..." This was while the choir was singing. The, uhm, gentleman took offense to the comment and began to throw folding chairs into the congregation. One sister took a chair across the forehead and required hospitalization.

It took about 4 or 5 of us to wrestle the nutcase outside. He beat up one guy pretty good in the scramble. As we wrestled him out the door (the choir never stopped singing!) the pastor was laying hands on him and "casting out Satan..." with no visible effect. We got the guy outside and I was going to call the police but the pastor rebuked me for it. Instead, we prayed for a moment and then allowed the now felonious nutcase back into the church. He joined with the congregation in the pot-luck after service just like he was family. The injured sister received several stitches and was released later that day.

StMark 02-11-2008 08:27 PM

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I want to see the video footage where is it??

wished I had been there to be honest

ForeverBlessed 02-11-2008 08:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 386840)
At the church I grew up in we had a couple bouts with the law having to be called in... once was a husband and wife who were divorcing due to him being very violent and a drunk... well our nursery was in a building behind the main sanctuary... All the sudden we notice all the ushers run out and then a few min later we hear sirens.. and a few min later he (father) comes in holding the baby... The police came in and were able to get the baby fortunately he didnt have a weapon.. he did however go to the nursery and take the baby by force...

He came back another time with a gun... the ushers were very big men and took him down very fast... not recommended but you hadta see these usher dudes!!!

Very scary but then again our church was right by downtown and the very over populated homeless area and we had a lot of drama all the time due to these 2 factors

we had something similar happen with a situation where a father came to get his kids after a church service... a lot of mixed communication and a fight broke out among the family of the wife... yep, pretty interesting all right.. the law called in and the dad spent the night in Jail... not a pretty sight... I wasn't there, oh, but believe me, I heard all about it in great detail.. :TulsaTime:

Mrs. LPW 02-11-2008 08:32 PM

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We've had some interesting things over the years... police have been called. It's never been a crazy church member or feuding though.
(There was that girl who went up into our balcony and took her top off... thankfully I wasn't praise singing that night)

One of my former pastors told me that many years ago, when he was young, that in another church in our city people came to blows... saints. Not sure if the police were called though.

Why in the world would you want to be there StMark? :toofunny

Timmy 02-12-2008 09:10 AM

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Aw man, nuthin' ever happens at my church. :ranting

AmazingGrace 02-12-2008 09:16 AM

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We also had a time that someone put and I dont remember what they are called but they are just like smoke bombs... dont do any real major damage but they blew out all the lights as they hooked them into the lights to where when the lights came on they went off and blew all the lights... this was done by the same group who broke in and stole our church safe... we later found them and it and they are actually now members of that church...


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