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RevDWW 03-17-2007 06:39 PM

Do Angels join in the worship of the church?
 
A friend sent me this link. It's supposed to be anglic singing. I'm not prepared to discount it. I do know I felt the Holy Ghost while listening to the worship.

See what you think.

Angels singing

Annie 03-17-2007 06:47 PM

Sorry, bro...I couldn't get through the first one. Gave me the heebies jeebies.

RevDWW 03-17-2007 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annie (Post 43516)
Sorry, bro...I couldn't get through the first one. Gave me the heebies jeebies.

How so?

berkeley 03-17-2007 09:49 PM

that was weird.. and all I heard was a woman singing.. and birds or bats in the background..

RevDWW 03-17-2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 43682)
that was weird.. and all I heard was a woman singing.. and birds or bats in the background..

:rolleyes: I didn't hear no birds or bats........:p

berkeley 03-17-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 43689)
:rolleyes: I didn't hear no birds or bats........:p

you didn't hear chirping?

RevDWW 03-17-2007 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 43692)
you didn't hear chirping?

Which recording?

berkeley 03-17-2007 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 43693)
Which recording?

first...

RevDWW 03-17-2007 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 43694)
first...

Nope, from my speakers it did sound like voices of a choir singing along.

berkeley 03-17-2007 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 43706)
Nope, from my speakers it did sound like voices of a choir singing along.

hmm.. i turned it up to full... still sounded like chirping..

Sister Alvear 03-17-2007 10:31 PM

I do not know about these recordings...but we have had angels singing with us in Brazil and not only singing they have ministered strength to us.
I am a firm believer that angels play a big part in our everyday lives...

Neck 03-17-2007 11:05 PM

Please read this... You have not heard this before!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 43511)
A friend sent me this link. It's supposed to be anglic singing. I'm not prepared to discount it. I do know I felt the Holy Ghost while listening to the worship.

See what you think.

Angels singing

We can’t see him! Can we feel him? Do we hear him!?

I wrote this....

Ok: I hope I can keep this understandable.

I work in Telecommunications. I sell data and voice applications to very large organizations.

I want to share the basics of how a sound is transmitted over a single copper wire..... in some cases thousands of miles.

Read this:

An Analog signal is a continuous electrical signal that varies in direct correlation with an impressed Phenomenon (Something perceptible),
stimulas, or an event that bears intelligence.

Sound waves and their electrical frequency are characterized by loudness
(Amplitude) and pitch.

Analog signals can assume any of an infinite number of amplitude values or frequency.

Pitch refers to how many times per second the signal swings between high and low amplitudes or sounds.

These sounds as traveling over a single copper wire are boosted using transmitters from central switching office to central switching office until the call signal reaches its destination.

Thus connecting a call across the country or world.

The frequencies measured in Mhz (Megahertz) are transmitted at one frequency one direction and another frequency in the other direction.

Thus allowing two streams on a single wire allowing for a phone conversation.

I have spoken to some of the brightest folks in the business.

Every sound is energy in motion.

With the right equipment there is not a measure of energy that we could not transfer to a perceived sound after being amplified.






The ear is an amazing body part because it enables humans and animals to hear what goes on around them. Hearing is one of the five senses of the body. The ears help the body to pick up sound waves and vibrations. Sound travels in waves through the air, the ground, and various other substances. Sound cannot be seen, but it can be felt by vibrations.

The number of vibrations that are produced per second is called frequency. Frequency varies for each sound and is measured in hertz. One hertz is equal to one vibration per second. A sound with a low frequency will have a low pitch, such as a human's heartbeat. A sound with a high frequency will have a high pitch, such as a dog whistle. Humans cannot hear sounds of every frequency. The range of hearing for a healthy young person is 20 to 20,000 hertz. The hearing range of humans gets worse with age. People lose the ability to hear sounds of high frequency as they get older. The highest frequency that a normal middle-aged adult can hear is only 12-14 kilohertz. Also, the hearing range for men worsens more quickly than the hearing range for women. This means that women will have the ability to hear notes of higher pitch than men of the same age do.

What is sound and frequency? Sound is a longitudinal mechanical wave of any frequency. Frequency is the number of cycles, or complete vibration experienced at each point per unit. Frequency is measured in hertz. The hertz, Hz, is the derived SI unit of frequency. The frequency of a sound wave determines its tone and pitch. The frequency range of a young person is about 20 to 20,000 hertz.

The human ear is capable of hearing many of the sounds produced in nature, but certainly not all. Some low frequencies like a heart beat of 1 or 2 Hz can not be heard, just like sonar sounds produced by dolphins which are too high. Any frequency that is below the human range is known as infrasound. It is so low that it may be detected by a creature with big ears, such as an Elephant. In fact, recent research indicates that elephants also communicate with infrasound. Ultrasound, on the other hand, is above the range of the human ear. Bats, whales, porpoises, and dolphins use ultrasound for navigation. Most bats can detect frequencies as high as 100,000 Hz!

__________________________________________________ __________

My conclusion the Spirit of the Lord is a force of Energy that is God. As stated above, "Sound cannot be seen, but it can be felt by vibrations".

So yes God's spirit the Angel's and even demos could be heard.

Have you ever had your hair on your arm stand up?

When you were in a certain environment?

It is not just a fluke or instinct.

It is the impulse of negative energy around you...

You feel the energy in the ground in the air and in the subtle sounds that are not perceptible by our human Hz(hertz) range of hearing.

Ever wonder why during a Tsunami all the animals headed for high ground? They could feel the vibrations of energy and sound that a human could not...

That is why music can be such a comforting medium.

Hear a song and it takes you to a moment in time that's etched in your mind and heart.

Hear a song in church and you feel the spirit of the Lord.

It is the frequency that moves us.

It is the presence of God and his host of Angel's wings all around us....

Can you hear the wave of God’s spirit????

Nathan Eckstadt



http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...adt/images.jpg

Sister Alvear 03-17-2007 11:22 PM

Beautiful....

Scott Hutchinson 03-17-2007 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 43793)
We can’t see him! Can we feel him? Do we hear him!?

I wrote this....

Ok: I hope I can keep this understandable.

I work in Telecommunications. I sell data and voice applications to very large organizations.

I want to share the basics of how a sound is transmitted over a single copper wire..... in some cases thousands of miles.

Read this:

An Analog signal is a continuous electrical signal that varies in direct correlation with an impressed Phenomenon (Something perceptible),
stimulas, or an event that bears intelligence.

Sound waves and their electrical frequency are characterized by loudness
(Amplitude) and pitch.

Analog signals can assume any of an infinite number of amplitude values or frequency.

Pitch refers to how many times per second the signal swings between high and low amplitudes or sounds.

These sounds as traveling over a single copper wire are boosted using transmitters from central switching office to central switching office until the call signal reaches its destination.

Thus connecting a call across the country or world.

The frequencies measured in Mhz (Megahertz) are transmitted at one frequency one direction and another frequency in the other direction.

Thus allowing two streams on a single wire allowing for a phone conversation.

I have spoken to some of the brightest folks in the business.

Every sound is energy in motion.

With the right equipment there is not a measure of energy that we could not transfer to a perceived sound after being amplified.






The ear is an amazing body part because it enables humans and animals to hear what goes on around them. Hearing is one of the five senses of the body. The ears help the body to pick up sound waves and vibrations. Sound travels in waves through the air, the ground, and various other substances. Sound cannot be seen, but it can be felt by vibrations.

The number of vibrations that are produced per second is called frequency. Frequency varies for each sound and is measured in hertz. One hertz is equal to one vibration per second. A sound with a low frequency will have a low pitch, such as a human's heartbeat. A sound with a high frequency will have a high pitch, such as a dog whistle. Humans cannot hear sounds of every frequency. The range of hearing for a healthy young person is 20 to 20,000 hertz. The hearing range of humans gets worse with age. People lose the ability to hear sounds of high frequency as they get older. The highest frequency that a normal middle-aged adult can hear is only 12-14 kilohertz. Also, the hearing range for men worsens more quickly than the hearing range for women. This means that women will have the ability to hear notes of higher pitch than men of the same age do.

What is sound and frequency? Sound is a longitudinal mechanical wave of any frequency. Frequency is the number of cycles, or complete vibration experienced at each point per unit. Frequency is measured in hertz. The hertz, Hz, is the derived SI unit of frequency. The frequency of a sound wave determines its tone and pitch. The frequency range of a young person is about 20 to 20,000 hertz.

The human ear is capable of hearing many of the sounds produced in nature, but certainly not all. Some low frequencies like a heart beat of 1 or 2 Hz can not be heard, just like sonar sounds produced by dolphins which are too high. Any frequency that is below the human range is known as infrasound. It is so low that it may be detected by a creature with big ears, such as an Elephant. In fact, recent research indicates that elephants also communicate with infrasound. Ultrasound, on the other hand, is above the range of the human ear. Bats, whales, porpoises, and dolphins use ultrasound for navigation. Most bats can detect frequencies as high as 100,000 Hz!

__________________________________________________ __________

My conclusion the Spirit of the Lord is a force of Energy that is God. As stated above, "Sound cannot be seen, but it can be felt by vibrations".

So yes God's spirit the Angel's and even demos could be heard.

Have you ever had your hair on your arm stand up?

When you were in a certain environment?

It is not just a fluke or instinct.

It is the impulse of negative energy around you...

You feel the energy in the ground in the air and in the subtle sounds that are not perceptible by our human Hz(hertz) range of hearing.

Ever wonder why during a Tsunami all the animals headed for high ground? They could feel the vibrations of energy and sound that a human could not...

That is why music can be such a comforting medium.

Hear a song and it takes you to a moment in time that's etched in your mind and heart.

Hear a song in church and you feel the spirit of the Lord.

It is the frequency that moves us.

It is the presence of God and his host of Angel's wings all around us....

Can you hear the wave of God’s spirit????

Nathan Eckstadt



http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...adt/images.jpg

You are one smart cookie.Boy you are smart.

Neck 03-17-2007 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 43840)
You are one smart cookie.Boy you are smart.

It is all God given. I know that so many men that work in technolgy understand so many spiritual things.

There just needs to be someone that brings it to light.

God Bless,

Nathan Eckstadt

Praxeas 03-18-2007 03:57 PM

See if you can find a recording of souls being torched in hell...

RevDWW 03-18-2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 44141)
See if you can find a recording of souls being torched in hell...

I have heard what was supposed to be screams and cries from hell, recorded from a deep pit in Russia. I heard recordings supposed to be the disembodies voices of the dead.

Noticed I used the word SUPPOSED. I can't prove or disprove it. Frankly even if they are all true, and an alien brings us the proof from it's UFO, while riding on a bigfoots shoulders, while the bigfoot rides the Lach Ness monster, it does not change the Gospel one iota! :tiphat

Eliseus 03-18-2007 04:13 PM

Well, I can't pull up the page!!!!!

:(

Eliseus 03-18-2007 04:14 PM

Where are the recordings? A page comes up with a menu at the top, nothing of which has to do with angels???????

It doesn't even look like the html was done correctly on that page????

Neck 03-18-2007 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 44141)
See if you can find a recording of souls being torched in hell...


You can't because it has not happened yet. You can only record whar is happening....

Ron 03-18-2007 04:56 PM

I have never heard Angels in Church but am almost dead certain I have felt them.

Neck 03-18-2007 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 44217)
I have never heard Angels in Church but am almost dead certain I have felt them.


What you feel is their energy. Which by the human eye you can't see. But with the right equipment we could hear them.

Look at what a scientist was able to hear.

Scientists listen to the sound of a moving atom.
Physicists recently figured out how to move single atoms, dragging them across a bed of other atoms lined up like marbles, and they can listen to the sound of them clicking along. Aside from the remarkable fact that these scientists are manipulating matter down to the smallest constituents possible, there are countless practical applications that could stem from this kind of fundamental research. Building computer chips on the atomic scale, personalized antibiotics, and tiny disease-detecting robots are only a few of the visionary aims of scientists working to understand how to build things atom by atom.
Listen to the click, click, click of Stanford assistant processor, Hari Manoharan’s laboratory tape, and it doesn't sound like much. But that clicking is the never-before-heard sound of an individual atom, moving. As it moves along, it creates a tiny current that can be measured and, by amplifying the magnitude, converted into sound.

http://www.acfnewsource.org/science/atom_sounds.html

hammondb3klingon1 03-18-2007 08:41 PM

Hari Krishna oh hari krishna come andd... ARE YOU KIDDING ME ANGELS? WHO BELIEVES IN ANGELS ANYMORE?? What kind of weird insane plot is this to make people believe in spirits that could possibly maybe come to church and sing with our sorry uncouth selves. Please this is insanity and the least and downright devil worship at the best.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.

I go to the garden alone.

RevDWW 03-18-2007 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammondb3klingon1 (Post 44340)
Hari Krishna oh hari krishna come andd... ARE YOU KIDDING ME ANGELS? WHO BELIEVES IN ANGELS ANYMORE?? What kind of weird insane plot is this to make people believe in spirits that could possibly maybe come to church and sing with our sorry uncouth selves. Please this is insanity and the least and downright devil worship at the best.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.

I go to the garden alone.

Smile when you say that Klingon! :hunter

Barb 03-18-2007 09:13 PM

I believe in angels, but I do NOT believe the angels sing...

IMO, other than the sound of our worship and praise here reaching the throne room, the next notes sung in heaven will be of the redeeemed (Rev. 5:9).

Sister Alvear 03-18-2007 10:36 PM

Job 38:1-7

"Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: 'Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge? Now prepare yourself like a man: I will question you, and you shall answer Me. Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?' "
The word "stars" is Strong's #3556 and one of its definitions is "heavenly power (that serve God)." Thus, a star could be an angel. Both my commentaries: Jamieson, Fausset, Brown and Matthew Henry, state that "morning stars" as used in this verse are indeed angels.


Somebody sang...who were these singers?


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