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JaneEyre 06-03-2008 08:02 PM

Barak Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination
 
Comments?

One word or one sentence comments.

SDG 06-03-2008 08:04 PM

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Ladies and Gentlemen ... the President of the United States of America.

CC1 06-03-2008 08:11 PM

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Heaven help us.

SoCaliUPC 06-03-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 482945)
Heaven help us.

Ditto.

Blubayou 06-03-2008 08:22 PM

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Socal- Good to see you checking in. I have missed your posting. This nomination is very distressing- but I wonder if we are not seeing prophecy fulfilled.

Pressing-On 06-03-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC (Post 482951)
Ditto.

Double ditto!

SoCaliUPC 06-03-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubayou (Post 482955)
Socal- Good to see you checking in. I have missed your posting. This nomination is very distressing- but I wonder if we are not seeing prophecy fulfilled.

Prophecy fulfilled? What do you see as prophecy here?

AmazingGrace 06-03-2008 08:33 PM

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What is sad and I think is funny too is how now they are saying that Billary is considering DEMANDING?????? The VP??? Since when does someone get the honor of demanding they be vice president?

But with all the accusations against bill coming out again Obama would be utterly stupid to say yes!

chosenbyone 06-03-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 482971)
What is sad and I think is funny too is how now they are saying that Billary is considering DEMANDING?????? The VP??? Since when does someone get the honor of demanding they be vice president?

But with all the accusations against bill coming out again Obama would be utterly stupid to say yes!

Think JFK and LBJ!

JFK picked LBJ in order to squelch the rancor and to unite the party. With the amount of clout she garnered during the nomination campaign, Hillary could demand to be picked just like LBJ or threaten to not enthusiastically endorse Obama. If she chose the later then Obama would have a difficult if not impossible time winning the race.

Esther 06-03-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 482945)
Heaven help us.

Amen we NEED to PRAY for our nation!

Hoovie 06-03-2008 09:04 PM

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In the words of his pastor... "Our chickens... are comin home... to roost!!!!!

CC1 06-03-2008 09:58 PM

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The irony is that anyone not voting for Obama will be labeled a racist wehn his skin color has absolutely nothing to do with the myriad of reasons one should not vote for him.

Never has a Presidential canidate had such close past associations with absolute left wing radicals.

Obama makes George McGovern look conservative.

In a year the Dems should gain the Presidency in a cakewalk I have to hope that all of this will cause enough Americans to pause in their rush for "change" long enough to come to their senses and vote for the other Democrat - McCain.

Sweet Pea 06-03-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 482945)
Heaven help us.



mega dittos!

Ron 06-04-2008 12:40 AM

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No better than the alternative!

StMark 06-04-2008 12:52 AM

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This has me very sober in my spirit and to think that so many
dumb americans are being deceived! I'm just not getting it !
WHY???? WHY is this happening??????????







.

AbundantGrace 06-04-2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneEyre (Post 482940)
Comments?

One word or one sentence comments.

National Suicide!!!

StMark 06-04-2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 483208)
National Suicide!!!


BUT WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOUNWORTHY 06-04-2008 06:26 AM

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Because we have too few real America loving Americans left in America. These are people who come here to reap the benefits but never really pledge their allegiance to our country..now these people are voting. The thing I can't understand, there are "Christians" who stand up for Obama.

If we knowingly vote for a hard core liberal will we be accountable for the death of the millions of infants that will be killed as well as the rejection of Isareal plus many other things that may happen. Just a thought.

Baron1710 06-04-2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 482971)
What is sad and I think is funny too is how now they are saying that Billary is considering DEMANDING?????? The VP??? Since when does someone get the honor of demanding they be vice president?

But with all the accusations against bill coming out again Obama would be utterly stupid to say yes!

Michael Reagan was commenting on Hillary as VP this morning and made the comment that Hillary would want to be Co-President and with her and Bill it would make an awkward threesome.

Saved 06-04-2008 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 483207)
This has me very sober in my spirit and to think that so many
dumb americans are being deceived! I'm just not getting it !
WHY???? WHY is this happening??????????







.

Please explain why anyone who chooses to vote for Obama should be considered "dumb" or "deceived"...I would rather have a president who is true to him/herself and then one who vasilates with time like Mr. Mccain.

Saved 06-04-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 483245)
Because we have too few real America loving Americans left in America. These are people who come here to reap the benefits but never really pledge their allegiance to our country..now these people are voting. The thing I can't understand, there are "Christians" who stand up for Obama.

If we knowingly vote for a hard core liberal will we be accountable for the death of the millions of infants that will be killed as well as the rejection of Isareal plus many other things that may happen. Just a thought.

People will make their own decisions, regardless of a presidents do or don'ts. Voting for Obama is not a pledge to kill of thousands or regect Isreal, it simple voting for someone whom you agree with on most points and can follow as a leader. I am sure there things McCain has done and/or will do things that will fly in the face of Christiandom....too many assume just because he is republican that he is poised in the right seat for all Christians. Give me someone who is true to himself over someone who can't and I will vote for him any day.

StillStanding 06-04-2008 08:06 AM

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Racism trumps Sexism!

CC1 06-04-2008 08:13 AM

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Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)

rgcraig 06-04-2008 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483273)
Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)

I'm just NOT voting for the 50% white side of him - - is that better?

bethola 06-04-2008 08:31 AM

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Well, we have had a VP that didn't know how to spell and now a "possible" President that doesn't know how many states he will be serving. Don't they teach GEOGRAPHY and HISTORY anymore in school?

SDG 06-04-2008 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saved (Post 483260)
People will make their own decisions, regardless of a presidents do or don'ts. Voting for Obama is not a pledge to kill of thousands or regect Isreal, it simple voting for someone whom you agree with on most points and can follow as a leader. I am sure there things McCain has done and/or will do things that will fly in the face of Christiandom....too many assume just because he is republican that he is poised in the right seat for all Christians. Give me someone who is true to himself over someone who can't and I will vote for him any day.

Yep.

This idea that voting for Obama is unChristian ... and the attempt to spiritualize this with end-prophecy ... hail Mary prayers ... and other comments in this thread ... such as "national suicides, dumb", etc. ..

is is what at times makes some Evangelicals and Fundamentalist seem extremist to the general population. Do we believe in the Bill of Rights, or not?

The world is not ending ... America has the backbone and, skeletal, and exoskeletal structure and thick epedermis to endure a presidency of a NON- WASPish leader ... I hope.

Long live the Constitution!!

SDG 06-04-2008 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483273)
Don't forget folks, if you don't vote for Obama that means you are racist. (we now have the ultimate race card being played)

Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.

CC1 06-04-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483298)
Yep.

This idea that voting for Obama is unChristian ... and the attempt to spiritualize this with end-prophecy ... hail Mary prayers ... and other comments in this thread ... such as "national suicides, dumb", etc. ..

is is what at times makes some Evangelicals and Fundamentalist seem extremist to the general population. Do we believe in the Bill of Rights, or not?

The world is not ending ... America has the backbone and, skeletal, and exoskeletal structure to endure a presidency of a NON- WASPish leader ... I hope.

Long live the Constitution!!

Voting for a canidate who opposes partial birth abortion vs one who approves of it is IMPORTANT. I don't care if the rest of the world thinks we are "extemist".

I see them as "extremist" promoting gay marriage, abortion, etc.

CC1 06-04-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483300)
Disagree. However, Obama has for the most part not played this card either ... until it became an issue that he did not bring but had to address ... i.e. his INCLUSIVE race speech.

America is growing in this area ... as evident by this historic nomination ... 45 years after Dr. King's speech for a color-blind society.

Truth is he's where he is because whites have voted for him.

Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?

deltaguitar 06-04-2008 09:07 AM

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Well, . . . Obama getting elected might push the republicans to get their act together. I highly doubt he can get elected though. There is just to much to overcome and the seniors like McCain.

SDG 06-04-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483303)
Voting for a canidate who opposes partial birth abortion vs one who approves of it is IMPORTANT. I don't care if the rest of the world thinks we are "extemist".

I see them as "extremist" promoting gay marriage, abortion, etc.

Which John McCain are you voting for the one who is pro-abortion or anti-abortion? The one that is pro-gay marriage or anti-gay marriage ...?

If you were voting for a true man w/ integrity and principles ... and he was truly conservative in his voting record ... I'd vote for him too.

McCain is Clinton in elephant's skin clothing. He's poll-driven and a chamaleon who changes colors during campaigns.

Keep him. Obama will be our next president.

I'm not a single or handful issue voter ...

Falla39 06-04-2008 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 482979)
Amen we NEED to PRAY for our nation!

Amen, Sis. Esther,

Great Lord God,

Your Word tells us that EXCEPT the LORD build the house, they labor
in vain that build. Your Word also tells us that EXCEPT the LORD KEEP
the CITY, the watchman waketh but in vain.

ALMIGHTY GOD, we humbly ask that YOU would KEEP our NATION!!
For if YOU do not KEEP our nation, we might as well sleep on!!

Falla39

SDG 06-04-2008 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483305)
Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?

What? Jackson has been quiet during this campaign ... and Sharpton has been in the Clinton camp.

Actually Sharpton has been vocal against Obama for most of the campaign.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/anderso...NROE18.article

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04292008...ama_108577.htm

and now is keeping his support for Obama SILENT.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...es_keepin.html


You listen to too much talk radio, CC. It's evident in your political postings.

I'm a Rush Head .... but I won't regurgitate them verbatim. Nor will I become a clone.

A_PoMo 06-04-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483305)
Obama doesn't have to play the race card himself. His surrogates do it for him. The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons, etc.

Remember the threats that there would be riots in the streets if Hillary got the nominiation rather than Obama?

sharpton and jackson are not obama's surrogates by any stretch of the imagination. the only people who played the race card were the white cracker clintons. obama only responded, reluctantly, to their and their surrogate's charges. sharpton and jackson are the past and they know it. they just play to the old school crowd and get their amens and speaking fees and milk the cow until they're all dead. very few people below the age of forty take them seriously. obama conncects most effectively with an entirely different generation than sharpton and jackson, one that is less segregated and more open to racially inclusion than the older generations.

i'm a former ditto head.

SDG 06-04-2008 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 483318)
sharpton and jackson are not obama's surrogates by any stretch of the imagination. the only people who played the race card where the white cracker clintons. obama only responded, reluctantly, to their and their surrogate's charges. sharpton and jackson are the past and they know it. they just play to the old school crowd and get their amens and speaking fees and milk the cow until they're all dead. very few people below the age of forty take them seriously. obama conncects most effectively with an entirely different generation than sharpton and jackson, one that is less segregated and more open to racially inclusion than the older generations.


Riots in the streets? Really? Why would there be riots, CC?

A_PoMo 06-04-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483320)
Riots in the streets? Really? Why would there be riots, CC?

"Can't we all just get along?" :bliss

CC1 06-04-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483315)
What? Jackson has been quiet during this campaign ... and Sharpton has been in the Clinton camp.

Actually Sharpton has been vocal against Obama for most of the campaign.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/anderso...NROE18.article

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04292008...ama_108577.htm

and now is keeping his support for Obama SILENT.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...es_keepin.html


You listen to too much talk radio, CC. It's evident in your political postings.

I'm a Rush Head .... but I won't regurgitate them verbatim. Nor become become a clone.

My dear DA I have been a political junkie since the age of 14. I was a card carrying Republican at age 16, two years before I could vote.

I was involved in all of these matters long before talk radio. I resent your statement that I am some mind numbed robot regurgitating talk radio talking points. I was neck deep in policy wonk debates probably before you were born. I was arguing welfare policy and other government programs with my High Scool government teachers in the 9th grade.

SDG 06-04-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 483326)
My dear DA I have been a political junkier since the age of 14. I was a card carrying Republican at age 16, two years before I could vote.

I was involved in all of these matters long before talk radio. I resent your statement that I am some mind numbed robot regurgitating talk radio talking points. I was neck deep in policy wonk debates probably before you were born. I was arguing welfare policy and other government programs with my High Scool government teachers in the 9th grade.

Impressive resume ... definitely conservative ... Like I.

But your surrogate remark WAY WAY OFF MARK!!!

CC1 06-04-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483320)
Riots in the streets? Really? Why would there be riots, CC?

Several black "leaders" publicly said that if Hillary "stole" the nomination from Obama that there would be riots in the streets at the Dem Convention.

Google it. I did not make that up. I read and saw on TV them say it with my own eyes and ears.

deltaguitar 06-04-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 483308)
Which John McCain are you voting for the one who is pro-abortion or anti-abortion. The one that is pro-gay marriage or anti-gay marriage ...

If you were voting for a true man w/ integrity and principles ... and he was truly conservative in his voting record ... I'd vote for him too.

McCain is Clinton in elephant's skin clothing. He's poll-driven and a chamaleon who changes colors during campaigns.

Keep him. Obama will be our next president.

I think one of the biggest issues is going to be healthcare. McCain is way more conservative than Hillary or Obama on this issue. Once you give people a "free" benefit the actual cost just explode. I would love to see some great minds get together and find a way to help our healthcare cost problems. The thought the government controlling my well being is scary.


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