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TRFrance 11-05-2008 12:25 PM

The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace
 
Great article here from the Wall Street Journal.

I believe history will show Bush to have been a much better president than his enemies and the media have portrayed him to be these last 8 years.

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The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace

What must our enemies be thinking?

Earlier this year, 12,000 people in San Francisco signed a petition in support of a proposition on a local ballot to rename an Oceanside sewage plant after George W. Bush. The proposition is only one example of the classless disrespect many Americans have shown the president.

According to recent Gallup polls, the president's average approval rating is below 30% -- down from his 90% approval in the wake of 9/11. Mr. Bush has endured relentless attacks from the left while facing abandonment from the right.

This is the price Mr. Bush is paying for trying to work with both Democrats and Republicans. During his 2004 victory speech, the president reached out to voters who supported his opponent, John Kerry, and said, "Today, I want to speak to every person who voted for my opponent. To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust."

Those bipartisan efforts have been met with crushing resistance from both political parties.

The president's original Supreme Court choice of Harriet Miers alarmed Republicans, while his final nomination of Samuel Alito angered Democrats. His solutions to reform the immigration system alienated traditional conservatives, while his refusal to retreat in Iraq has enraged liberals who have unrealistic expectations about the challenges we face there.
It seems that no matter what Mr. Bush does, he is blamed for everything. He remains despised by the left while continuously disappointing the right.

Yet it should seem obvious that many of our country's current problems either existed long before Mr. Bush ever came to office, or are beyond his control.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html

Dimples 11-05-2008 12:29 PM

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I agree.

Surprised the WSJ ran the story.

StMark 11-05-2008 12:31 PM

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Yes, I heard about San Francisco naming a sewege plant after him.
That's so disrespectful but very San Francisco too


George Bush was a terrible speaker. He stuttered and stamered over his words, always seemed uncomfortable. I think he should have taken some lessons on how to talk and communicate.


I agree though, he wasn't given credit where it was due.

All we need is another terrorist attack and the nation will be crying and'wishing he was back in office

Traci 11-05-2008 12:33 PM

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All we need is another terrorist attack and the nation will be crying and'wishing he was back in office
Why would they have to attack us? They will be able to walk through the front door.

StMark 11-05-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Traci (Post 624473)
Why would they have to attack us? They will be able to walk through the front door.



well of course!! why else would Hamas and the all the Muslims be rejocing??

Ron 11-05-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 624477)
well of course!! why else would Hamas and the all the Muslims be rejocing??

Perhaps they are rejoicing because Obama just quite possibly be so quick to invade their country?

Ferd 11-05-2008 02:03 PM

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History will improve his image just as it has done Truman.

Rhoni 11-05-2008 02:18 PM

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:aaa
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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 624462)
Great article here from the Wall Street Journal.

I believe history will show Bush to have been a much better president than his enemies and the media have portrayed him to be these last 8 years.

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The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace

What must our enemies be thinking?

Earlier this year, 12,000 people in San Francisco signed a petition in support of a proposition on a local ballot to rename an Oceanside sewage plant after George W. Bush. The proposition is only one example of the classless disrespect many Americans have shown the president.

According to recent Gallup polls, the president's average approval rating is below 30% -- down from his 90% approval in the wake of 9/11. Mr. Bush has endured relentless attacks from the left while facing abandonment from the right.

This is the price Mr. Bush is paying for trying to work with both Democrats and Republicans. During his 2004 victory speech, the president reached out to voters who supported his opponent, John Kerry, and said, "Today, I want to speak to every person who voted for my opponent. To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust."

Those bipartisan efforts have been met with crushing resistance from both political parties.

The president's original Supreme Court choice of Harriet Miers alarmed Republicans, while his final nomination of Samuel Alito angered Democrats. His solutions to reform the immigration system alienated traditional conservatives, while his refusal to retreat in Iraq has enraged liberals who have unrealistic expectations about the challenges we face there.
It seems that no matter what Mr. Bush does, he is blamed for everything. He remains despised by the left while continuously disappointing the right.

Yet it should seem obvious that many of our country's current problems either existed long before Mr. Bush ever came to office, or are beyond his control.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html

I agree that it is a shame that he could not go out in a blaze of glory. He kept us safe since 9/11 and has stood by Israel and defended AMERICA's allies.

It is not unlike how ministers are treated on the way out the door though...isn't it?:aaa

Esther 11-05-2008 02:21 PM

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I do not regret my vote for Bush. He has not done everything the way I would have wished. But he has kept us safe.

tamor 11-06-2008 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 624590)
I do not regret my vote for Bush. He has not done everything the way I would have wished. But he has kept us safe.

I don't regret mine either, Esther. And I agree with the rest of your post.

Praxeas 11-06-2008 05:02 PM

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The result of all the Democratic finger pointing and lying and the partiality of the left leaning media to focus on it. This is exactly why they said "When Obama is president we will go through tough times, but we will need your support, don't give up on us (like we did to Bush) " (paraphrase)

George 11-06-2008 06:34 PM

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Bush has been condemned for the Irag Way and I think those who condemned him should consider this:

F. D. Roosevelt (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida !!!

A_PoMo 11-06-2008 06:36 PM

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Surely the treatment of Bush in the media couldn't be any worse than Obama's treatment on this board.

northern gal 11-06-2008 07:58 PM

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Great post George. Homeland, security, partial birth abortion,conservative judges and yet he does not get too much credit. Sure there are some things we all disagree with,and I also think we will appreciate him a few years from now.

HappyTown 11-06-2008 08:20 PM

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Bush is a disgrace! We might have had problems, but nothing like what he has left behind!!

Bush should be charge for war crimes!!!



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It’s been said “In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” — Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Dimples 11-06-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625638)
Bush is a disgrace! We might have had problems, but nothing like what he has left behind!!

Bush should be charge for war crimes!!!

Why don't you shut up or move to Iran!

HappyTown 11-06-2008 08:42 PM

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:ursofunny

HappyTown 11-06-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimples (Post 625640)
Why don't you shut up or move to Iran!

Please!!! Hasn’t it even OCCURRED to the voting (scammed) public, that none of these guys they are voting for actually have a CLUE what to do about any of the REAL issues facing us all?

Praxeas 11-06-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625638)
Bush is a disgrace! We might have had problems, but nothing like what he has left behind!!

Bush should be charge for war crimes!!!

On spending...you realize spending has to be approved by congress? And more spending bills get sent to Bush and he must approve them...So don't just blame Bush but blame the folks on capital hill.

War Crimes? Such as? Oh wait...he lied. Did he? Democrats on the security comm saw the same intel he saw..they voted for the war...then they saw how much the world was against us and then they rather slickly turned against Bush and the war as though they were never for it

They adapted the whole thing into a convenient "Blame Bush for Everything" campaign...even hurricanes. Good grief. But you think maybe that is why Obamas people are warning their supporters to keep on supporting him once he gets into office? Think about it. They set the tone...blame the president for everything that happens...even things he was not responsible for...might come back to bite them

HappyTown 11-06-2008 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimples (Post 625640)
Why don't you shut up or move to Iran!



As for leaving ??? Maybe you should!!! If your going to live here, please know the History!!!


The early presidents and patriots were generally Deists or Unitarians, believing in some form of impersonal Providence but rejecting the divinity of Jesus and the absurdities of the Old and New testaments.

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The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, - and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."




IsolatedSaint 11-06-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tamor (Post 625196)
I don't regret mine either, Esther. And I agree with the rest of your post.

You need to repent you know....you have blood on your hands.

Dimples 11-06-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625649)
Please!!! Hasn’t it even OCCURRED to the voting (scammed) public, that none of these guys they are voting for actually have a CLUE what to do about any of the REAL issues facing us all?



Learn the History, if your going to live here!!!!

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625663)
As for leaving ??? Maybe you should!!! If your going to live here, please know the History!!!


The early presidents and patriots were generally Deists or Unitarians, believing in some form of impersonal Providence but rejecting the divinity of Jesus and the absurdities of the Old and New testaments.

What does any of this have to do with you HATING BUSH?

HappyTown 11-06-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimples (Post 625667)
What does any of this have to do with you HATING BUSH?

You tell me????

Dimples 11-06-2008 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625671)
You tell me????

Nothing, that's what it has to do with your hatred.

IsolatedSaint 11-06-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimples (Post 625640)
Why don't you shut up or move to Iran!

The problem with some of the posts on this thread is that some of us as Oneness people are getting our world/political views from the likes of trinitarians like John Hagee who are Pro-Zionist(the Israel can do no wrong doctrine).

I was just as disgusted with the Bush 2004 election as I am with the Obama fiasco. But you see Obama is an extension of Bush and will continue in the tradition of all of the Bush doctrines. It will be no different, only worse or WORSER.

IsolatedSaint 11-06-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625638)
Bush is a disgrace! We might have had problems, but nothing like what he has left behind!!

Bush should be charge for war crimes!!!

No, he should be CONVICTED of War crimes and summarily executed. I think he's been treated rather well considering.....

IsolatedSaint 11-06-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by A_PoMo (Post 625598)
Surely the treatment of Bush in the media couldn't be any worse than Obama's treatment on this board.

Election Fraud put Bush in office in 2000 and 2004.....this was the main issue with me concerning his Presidency(non-presidency). The Obama situation is a different breed altogether.

The real reality is this.....our voting in and of itself decides NOTHING.

IsolatedSaint 11-06-2008 09:30 PM

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[QUOTE=Rhoni;624586]: He kept us safe since 9/11 and has stood by Israel and defended AMERICA's allies.[QUOTE]
Safe from what, the Boogey man. You must be referring to the FAKE WAR ON TERROR. As far as all that your talking about, that's not his job to stand by Israel and defend AMERICA"S allies, and it's not America's job to police the world either!!!
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It is not unlike how ministers are treated on the way out the door though...isn't it?:aaa
I know you aren't really thinking with a statement like that.

HappyTown 11-06-2008 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 625678)
No, he should be CONVICTED of War crimes and summarily executed. I think he's been treated rather well considering.....

:tease I agree!!! I was trying to be nice...;)

HappyTown 11-06-2008 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimples (Post 625672)
Nothing, that's what it has to do with your hatred.

Don't mistake TRUTH for hatred !!!

HappyTown 11-06-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint (Post 625685)
Election Fraud put Bush in office in 2000 and 2004.....this was the main issue with me concerning his Presidency(non-presidency). The Obama situation is a different breed altogether.

The real reality is this.....our voting in and of itself decides NOTHING.

HUSTON WE FOUND LIFE!!!


Someone who gets it!!! I almost lost all hope!!!

Add : Agree with the fake war on terrorism as well!!!

SOUNWORTHY 11-07-2008 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625649)
Please!!! Hasn’t it even OCCURRED to the voting (scammed) public, that none of these guys they are voting for actually have a CLUE what to do about any of the REAL issues facing us all?

Remember everyone HT is a woman who said at one time she didn't write the English langusge to well because they didn't speak it at home. For some reason she is full of hatred for us, our country and our president. I feel sorry for her, if she is a her which I doubt.

HT I am a Bush man, always have been and always will be. I'm an American who loves his country but am unhappy with the way it is going especially since Tuesday. God didn't do it the way I wanted but I'll still trust him. We'll be OK because Sarah will run in 2012 with Jeb Bush as her VP.:club

crakjak 11-07-2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by George (Post 625594)
Bush has been condemned for the Irag Way and I think those who condemned him should consider this:

F. D. Roosevelt (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida !!!

Don't confuse the kool-aid drinkers with the truth, their mush brains have been frozen by the brainwashing of the lying leftist media.

crakjak 11-07-2008 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyTown (Post 625649)
Please!!! Hasn’t it even OCCURRED to the voting (scammed) public, that none of these guys they are voting for actually have a CLUE what to do about any of the REAL issues facing us all?

I'm sure you have all the answers, I hope you are actively implementing the answers not just sitting on the bench criticizing the players on the field.

A drunkard on a bulldozer can easily demolish a building, but it takes real artisan to build a building.

George 11-07-2008 12:53 AM

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TRFRANCE - posts #15 and #26 are classic examples to the title of your thread. I find it personally offensive for these guys to say President Bush should be charged with war crimes and executed. Their comments should be flagged. The President of the United States of America deserves respect whether you agree with him or not. To wish the president dead is pathethically immature. Their comments speak of their limited knowledge of presidents who have made greater mistakes that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and were never reprimanded nor criticized.

George 11-07-2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 625758)
Don't confuse the kool-aid drinkers with the truth, their mush brains have been frozen by the brainwashing of the lying leftist media.

These Kool-Aid drinkers ought to all move to the Middle East. They love fighting so much they should move to a war zone.

Praxeas 11-07-2008 02:17 AM

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Don't get your political views from Hagee or from skin heads or conspiracy nut web sites

TRFrance 11-07-2008 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by George (Post 625764)
TRFRANCE - posts #15 and #26 are classic examples to the title of your thread. I find it personally offensive for these guys to say President Bush should be charged with war crimes and executed. Their comments should be flagged. The President of the United States of America deserves respect whether you agree with him or not. To wish the president dead is pathethically immature. Their comments speak of their limited knowledge of presidents who have made greater mistakes that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and were never reprimanded nor criticized.

So true, George. I was wondering if there was anyone else who was outraged by that, but I decided to just keep my mouth shut on that one in the meantime.

But really, that's one of the most shameful comments I've ever seen posted on this board... and trust me, I've seen a lot of shameful stuff around here. But this is one of the worst.

But if I say what I really really feel, there could be some hurt feelings around here. So I'll just leave it at that for now. It is what it is.

Tyk 11-07-2008 08:19 AM

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I agree George doesn't deserve the flak he gets.

On hes speaking skills...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRhhtkRp8aM

You can ignore the Text or words of the author. I haven't heard him speak like this in years but i remember this and other debates.

Jermyn Davidson 11-07-2008 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 624590)
I do not regret my vote for Bush. He has not done everything the way I would have wished. But he has kept us safe.

God has kept us safe.

There is absolutely NO WAY to completely secure our society as long as it remains open and free.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


The problem with GWB is that he will not come clean with America about his mistakes and failures. I think we would be more understanding as a country towards him if he would just be honest and admit we have made some poor decisions, some mistakes and have not responded appropriately. I admite it, but this is how we're going to move forward from here.


He had the opportunity to "come clean" after his reelection, should have performed a major overhaul of his staff then.

If he had did this back in 05, there is a very good chance Sen. McCain would have been President elect McCain.

He didn't and the country's anger at the "Republican" brand manifested itself with the election of President Obama.


We Republicans have NO ONE to blame but ourselves for our situation, and to a large degree the direction our government is heading now-- for better or for worse.


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