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shawndell 01-29-2009 08:00 AM
Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Okay guys.Here's a question,I have had several pets in my life time and I have loved them all very much.Heres my take on the subject.Man has a soul animals and angels do not but,they have a spirit.If God is the same yesterday,today and always then, we must go to the book of Genesis1 where he created everything and all the animals.when God created them he looked upon his work and said that it was good.Ive been taught that God does not dispose.He loves his creation.The bible also states that he cares for the animals because he feeds them and clothes the lilies of the field!iN The begining we all were all to live forever but because of mankinds sin everybody including the animals started to die.If God does not dispose of his creation then maybe Ill see my four legged friends in heaven.What do you all think?:kittyhug:dogpat:largehalo:doggyrun

Timmy 01-29-2009 08:55 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Dogs? Yes. Cats? No.

:lol

MrsMcD 01-29-2009 08:57 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
My husband is a huge animal lover. I heard him tell his mom that he felt God had a special place in heaven for animals. Do I agree? Nope but he loves animals so much that he wants to believe that. :tissue

BrotherEastman 01-29-2009 10:50 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Breath = Life giving force.

Spirit = The inner part of a person; God's agency.

Although I do not see any scriptural evedence of what you are asking, I can only assume based upon some clues that might support your theories. According to Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the "breath" of life; and man became a living soul. From Strong's concordance we find that the word "breath" is derived from the Hebrew word neshamaw which means: A puff, i.e. wind, angry or vital breath, divine inspiration, intellect. or an "animal":--- blast, (that) breath (-eth), inspiration, soul, "spirit". The word "spirit" is closely tied in with breath (also found in Strong's concordance) taken from the Hebrew word "ruwach".

Take this information for what it's worth ( a grain of salt), but if God breathed into man, then it wouldn't be difficult to see that animals are given His breath to live as well. Even though I do not find any evedence to support animals going to heaven when they die, it is difficult for me to say that the spirit of the animals will not go on to live forever. JMO.

shawndell 01-29-2009 10:56 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 693956)
Breath = Life giving force.

Spirit = The inner part of a person; God's agency.

Although I do not see any scriptural evedence of what you are asking, I can only assume based upon some clues that might support your theories. According to Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the "breath" of life; and man became a living soul. From Strong's concordance we find that the word "breath" is derived from the Hebrew word neshamaw which means: A puff, i.e. wind, angry or vital breath, divine inspiration, intellect. or an "animal":--- blast, (that) breath (-eth), inspiration, soul, "spirit". The word "spirit" is closely tied in with breath (also found in Strong's concordance) taken from the Hebrew word "ruwach".

Take this information for what it's worth ( a grain of salt), but if God breathed into man, then it wouldn't be difficult to see that animals are given His breath to live as well. Even though I do not find any evedence to support animals going to heaven when they die, it is difficult for me to say that the spirit of the animals will not go on to live forever. JMO.
You are right about them going to heaven.But maybe somewhere we can visit?:dogpat

Renee29 02-01-2009 04:14 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
IMO, yes.

Aquila 02-01-2009 04:27 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndell (Post 693845)
Okay guys.Here's a question,I have had several pets in my life time and I have loved them all very much.Heres my take on the subject.Man has a soul animals and angels do not but,they have a spirit.If God is the same yesterday,today and always then, we must go to the book of Genesis1 where he created everything and all the animals.when God created them he looked upon his work and said that it was good.Ive been taught that God does not dispose.He loves his creation.The bible also states that he cares for the animals because he feeds them and clothes the lilies of the field!iN The begining we all were all to live forever but because of mankinds sin everybody including the animals started to die.If God does not dispose of his creation then maybe Ill see my four legged friends in heaven.What do you all think?:kittyhug:dogpat:largehalo:doggyrun
Yes. Jesus comes back on a white horse doesn't he? lol

You'll notice that Heaven is full of beasts and creatures. It's a wonderful place.

http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/WhatDreams.JPG

scotty 02-01-2009 04:52 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 693885)
Dogs? Yes. Cats? No.

:lol

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

SOUNWORTHY 02-01-2009 06:25 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
I'm afraid not even though it's a good thought. I too am an animal lover.

Aquila 02-01-2009 10:18 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
I don't know why animals wouldn't go to heaven.

SOUNWORTHY 02-02-2009 09:00 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Even Pit Bulls?:nah

shawndell 02-02-2009 09:49 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 696930)
Even Pit Bulls?:nah
Well if the lion will lay down with the lamb then, pit bull's arent as mean as a lions.:feral:TulsaROCKS::heart

MissBrattified 02-02-2009 09:56 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
I don't know, but if they do, we'll have to have an extra house just for the animals that have passed on from our family. Thus far the count has been:

Ten chicks (Jeff and I bought them right after we were married, they were all grabbed by a possum or other critter on their first night outside, except for the biggest named "Gusto", who unfortunately didn't survive our overzealous attempts to "save" him with the hair dryer. :oops)

1 gray persian cat
1 siamese cat, Sapphire, died of old age at about 18
2 labs, Jethro & Zipporah (at different times)
1 bichon frise named Cracker Jacque, hit by a car
1 lovely silver tabby named Tiger, killed by contaminated pet food (remember that?)
1 boxer mix stray named Stella, hit by the neighbor's truck
1 beta fish named Valentine
2 hamsters, Henry & Harvey
10 goldfish, who only survived one night
1 Boston Terrier named Chloe

shawndell 02-02-2009 10:08 AM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 696956)
I don't know, but if they do, we'll have to have an extra house just for the animals that have passed on from our family. Thus far the count has been:

Ten chicks (Jeff and I bought them right after we were married, they were all grabbed by a possum or other critter on their first night outside, except for the biggest named "Gusto", who unfortunately didn't survive our overzealous attempts to "save" him with the hair dryer. :oops)

1 gray persian cat
1 siamese cat, Sapphire, died of old age at about 18
2 labs, Jethro & Zipporah (at different times)
1 bichon frise named Cracker Jacque, hit by a car
1 lovely silver tabby named Tiger, killed by contaminated pet food (remember that?)
1 boxer mix stray named Stella, hit by the neighbor's truck
1 beta fish named Valentine
2 hamsters, Henry & Harvey
10 goldfish, who only survived one night
1 Boston Terrier named Chloe
Well you wont have to worry about pet hairs in heaven or bad oders.You will have one big cuddle fest!!:dogkiss:dogkiss:girlnails

shawndell 02-02-2009 02:17 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 696504)
Yes. Jesus comes back on a white horse doesn't he? lol

You'll notice that Heaven is full of beasts and creatures. It's a wonderful place.

http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/WhatDreams.JPG
We dont know everything about heaven yet but,its going to be awsome!!!:highfive

Apprehended 02-02-2009 05:31 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
How about my neighbor's giant Pet Python?

pelathais 02-02-2009 05:35 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 693956)
Breath = Life giving force.

Spirit = The inner part of a person; God's agency.
...

Take this information for what it's worth ( a grain of salt), but if God breathed into man, then it wouldn't be difficult to see that animals are given His breath to live as well. Even though I do not find any evedence to support animals going to heaven when they die, it is difficult for me to say that the spirit of the animals will not go on to live forever. JMO.
See and compare Genesis 6:17. The "breath of life..." was in the animals as well.

pelathais 02-02-2009 05:36 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 697329)
How about my neighbor's giant Pet Python?
Gotta have some way to control the rodents.

Jermyn Davidson 02-02-2009 05:37 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Pets have no souls.

They are temporary sources of pleasure for humans and have no eternal value.

pelathais 02-02-2009 05:38 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697335)
Pets have no souls.

They are temporary sources of pleasure for humans and have no eternal value.
What is a soul?

shawndell 02-02-2009 05:42 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apprehended (Post 697329)
How about my neighbor's giant Pet Python?
Yes I think he will go to and he wont swollow any thing.hehe.:ursofunny

Timmy 02-02-2009 05:44 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
How about my tarantula?

shawndell 02-02-2009 05:44 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 697333)
See and compare Genesis 6:17. The "breath of life..." was in the animals as well.
Maybe the new earth?:heart

shawndell 02-02-2009 05:47 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 697346)
How about my tarantula?
Just keep him away from me!!!:sad:roseglasses

Pressing-On 02-02-2009 05:48 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
No.

shawndell 02-02-2009 05:50 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 697355)
No.
The word no reminds me of my mom.:foottap:heart:heart:heart:heart

Pressing-On 02-02-2009 05:53 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndell (Post 697361)
The word no reminds me of my mom.:foottap:heart:heart:heart:heart
LOL! I used to say, "tough" to my children. They hated when I said that. :toofunny

shawndell 02-02-2009 05:55 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 697366)
LOL! I used to say, "tough" to my children. They hated when I said that. :toofunny
I know I do that to my children and grandchildren.The wonderful words of I told you so is fun to use too.:ursofunny

shawndell 02-02-2009 05:56 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndell (Post 697370)
I know I do that to my children and grandchildren.The wonderful words of I told you so is fun to use too.:ursofunny
that wasnt very nice of me.:blush

Pressing-On 02-02-2009 05:57 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndell (Post 697370)
I know I do that to my children and grandchildren.The wonderful words of I told you so is fun to use too.:ursofunny
:thumbsup Waiting on our son right now to call. He's having trouble with his car and on his way to have it looked at. He will call if it dies before he gets to where he is going. He needs us! Oops, there's the phone. Handing it to DAD! :D

Jermyn Davidson 02-02-2009 06:06 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 697337)
What is a soul?
Something that pets do not have!

Will our pets be judged?


Will there be any memories of this life in the new life to come?

What value will a stupid cat have in eternity?

If anything, God will give us new pets that will never leave us heartbroken-- pets that know how to praise God.

However I find no scripture for this, just wishful thinking from a guy who misses his own dead dog. He's probably in some body's flower bed now!

I'm over it.
You all should get over it too!
:)

shawndell 02-02-2009 06:17 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
Something that pets do not have!

Will our pets be judged?


Will there be any memories of this life in the new life to come?

What value will a stupid cat have in eternity?

If anything, God will give us new pets that will never leave us heartbroken-- pets that know how to praise God.

However I find no scripture for this, just wishful thinking from a guy who misses his own dead dog. He's probably in some body's flower bed now!

I'm over it.
You all should get over it too!
:)
Boy!!! Wont you be pleasantly surprised!!:heart:heart:heart

pelathais 02-02-2009 06:20 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
Something that pets do not have!
LOL! You got me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
Will our pets be judged?
Coonskinner judges his dogs all the time - and he's a tough judge too! *BLAM!*
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
Will there be any memories of this life in the new life to come?
Not any that cause "pain" - Revelation 21:4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
What value will a stupid cat have in eternity?
None for a "stupid cat!" But a good dog? And a lion and a lamb - at least one of each... and a wolf and a lamb and a leopard and a kid goat. And every beast of the field. Hosea 2:18 and others.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
If anything, God will give us new pets that will never leave us heartbroken-- pets that know how to praise God.
I dunno. maybe "praise" by their peaceful demeanors?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
However I find no scripture for this, just wishful thinking from a guy who misses his own dead dog. He's probably in some body's flower bed now!
Isaiah 11:6; Isaiah 65:25; Ezekiel 34:25; Hosea 2:18.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 697387)
I'm over it.
You all should get over it too!
:)
I'm not a big animal guy - but life touches life. It's not the same as making important human connections, and it's certainly nothing that can be equated to making contact with eternal life. But still, it's a part of God's creation that intersects with our lives. It has its significance.

Timmy 02-02-2009 06:30 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndell (Post 697352)
Just keep him away from me!!!:sad:roseglasses
No problem. We'll probably be in different sections, anyway. :lol

OnTheFritz 02-02-2009 06:33 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
What's the point in deciding that they won't be there? ;). I have no way of knowing for sure, so I'll just go along my merry way...

Jermyn Davidson 02-02-2009 06:41 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 697408)
What's the point in deciding that they won't be there? ;). I have no way of knowing for sure, so I'll just go along my merry way...
Closure.

shawndell 02-02-2009 07:42 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 697405)
No problem. We'll probably be in different sections, anyway. :lol
We are going to be stuck up each others noses for ever and ever and ever!!LOLOLOL!!!!!!! In heaven.:hug3:girlnails

shawndell 02-02-2009 07:44 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 697398)
LOL! You got me.

Coonskinner judges his dogs all the time - and he's a tough judge too! *BLAM!*

Not any that cause "pain" - Revelation 21:4

None for a "stupid cat!" But a good dog? And a lion and a lamb - at least one of each... and a wolf and a lamb and a leopard and a kid goat. And every beast of the field. Hosea 2:18 and others.

I dunno. maybe "praise" by their peaceful demeanors?

Isaiah 11:6; Isaiah 65:25; Ezekiel 34:25; Hosea 2:18.

I'm not a big animal guy - but life touches life. It's not the same as making important human connections, and it's certainly nothing that can be equated to making contact with eternal life. But still, it's a part of God's creation that intersects with our lives. It has its significance.
Thats truely lovely.:heart:heart:blush

Aquila 02-02-2009 09:22 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Didn't Elijah get carried away by a fiery chariot?

http://www.geocities.com/mantle_ark/mantle.jpg

Hey look, heavenly horses! LOL

ooooOOOOOoooo

I just thought of a theological argument for animals going to heaven. If Elijah's chariot was driven by heavenly horses, Jesus comes back on a white horse, and the saints come riding back on white horses...

Where did these horses come from? Biblically speaking the only place that their creation is mentioned is here on earth. Nowhere do we read of a horse or animal being created in heaven. Therefore logic would demand that these horses were born on earth, perished, and went to heaven. To prove me wrong you'll have to provide a biblical proof showing that these animals were made in heaven. :tease

Thoughts? :lol

Praxeas 02-02-2009 09:23 PM
Re: Do our pets go to heaven?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shawndell (Post 693845)
Okay guys.Here's a question,I have had several pets in my life time and I have loved them all very much.Heres my take on the subject.Man has a soul animals and angels do not but,they have a spirit.If God is the same yesterday,today and always then, we must go to the book of Genesis1 where he created everything and all the animals.when God created them he looked upon his work and said that it was good.Ive been taught that God does not dispose.He loves his creation.The bible also states that he cares for the animals because he feeds them and clothes the lilies of the field!iN The begining we all were all to live forever but because of mankinds sin everybody including the animals started to die.If God does not dispose of his creation then maybe Ill see my four legged friends in heaven.What do you all think?:kittyhug:dogpat:largehalo:doggyrun
House cats go to hell...I'm pretty sure about that.


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