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How about a name change since this has ceased to be Apostolic in any sense of the word?

Maybe Ex-Apostolic Friends Forum?

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Hmm, I guess you're right. Perhaps we need to be paying homage to Rome. ;)


Apostolic:

ap⋅os⋅tol⋅ic  /ˌæpəˈstɒlɪk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ap-uh-stol-ik] Show IPA
–adjective 1. of or characteristic of an apostle.
2. pertaining to or characteristic of the 12 apostles.
3. derived from the apostles in regular succession.
4. of or pertaining to the pope; papal.

Main Entry: ap·os·tol·ic
Pronunciation: \ˌa-pə-ˈstä-lik\
Function: adjective
Date: 13th century
1 a: of or relating to an apostle b: of, relating to, or conforming to the teachings of the New Testament apostles
2 a: of or relating to a succession of spiritual authority from the apostles held (as by Roman Catholics, Anglicans, and Eastern Orthodox) to be perpetuated by successive ordinations of bishops and to be necessary for valid sacraments and orders b: papal

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One vote from a lover of Apostolic church now where was it y'all was going to church?

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We are going to a non-denominational church. Bottom line: You are not the definer of the word Apostolic.:foottap

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Bro Epley, there certainly has been an emergence away from and into something different than the old FCF days.

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What Jim Yohe foresaw was not a 42nd cousin to this forum.

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So define Apostolic for us since you claim to be Apostolic evidently you are a member of this forum?

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In some cases might want to drop the word friends too.:blush

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LOL! So, I provided definitions from two different dictionaries above and you ask me to define it? :ursofunny

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Agreed.:thumbsup

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If "Apostolic" refers to those who stick to the NT for their doctrines, people who believe in one, true God, baptize in Jesus' name, and believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost, the gifts of the spirit, etc., then I'd say there are a LOT of Apostolics on this forum. That doesn't mean they get the most airtime, but I think they're adequately represented--enough to call this the "Apostolic Friends Forum."

Now, if you only define Apostolic by those who hold to certain standards of dress--well, then you do have a problem. I think Apostolic is based on core doctrines regarding the identity of God and what constitutes salvation. Not sleeve length or whether someone wears open-toed shoes.

I do believe that Apostolic encompasses conservatism, in that we should interpret scriptures conservatively--as close to the original meaning as possible, without broad interpretations and expansion. A simple, face value approach.

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So that definition was in your mind when you joined?

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There is constant posting of the very opposite on here as you have defined. The Apostolics sure are quiet if they are on here?:thumbsup

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Seems dissing of standards is quite doctrinal around here.

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The conservative "Apostolics" jumped ship, so to speak, because they either were too tired of defending their beliefs or couldn't give a good response to those other apostolics who have a much more liberal bent.

And then there are others who take the plunge into forum discussion judiciously. :)

I think a few others have taken a holiday like TR France.

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Forget the lib and con thing. I wonder how many on here go to an Apostolic church?

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Or maybe they found they couldn't unscramble eggs. :) :)

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I go to a church with a couple of UPC licensed ministers.

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I think when I joined that I viewed the word Aposotlic as Miss Brat does above. Meaning, more varied and less monolithic than your narrow brand.

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They cloistered themselves like the monastic saints of the past. So much for salt and light.

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:highfive

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I would venture to say a VERY high percentage do. Perhaps 10% do not - and they can be quite vocal at times, so it could appear to be more.

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Quite presumptuous ... you've substantiated the monastic cloistering how?

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I spent most of my teen years in a UPC church, followed by another decade in one that had broken away from the mothership. Since moving to AZ we have been attending a large church loosely associated with the AoG here in East Mesa, just South of Red Mountain.


In the computer world (which I believe you are heavily invested in if I remember fight) we call it "not being able to put the genii back in the bottle".

Granted, that saying is usually brought up when talking about file sharing.

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lol!!!


:) :) :) :) :)

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The prior owners of AFF are UPC ministers who left to form their own forum...Just Preachers, and evidently would not allow many of the other more liberal ministers on this forum to join or quickly banned them once their identities were known. IOW, they cloistered themselves.

Interesting reading in threads around January to February 2008.

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I would say most do. I don't and I feel like a minority. (But I am not crying about my minority status. :D)

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Thank you for narrowing the broad brush to forum members. :)

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Isn't this thread about this forum?

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Your only here for "diversity" sake. LOL

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Y'all want to turn this into a lib verses con thing and I am NOT going to let you.
Some subjects defended on this forum:
All shades of Calvinism
Universalism
Faith Only
Silent Baptism
the One necessity of speaking in tongues
sprinkling as baptism
that's just for a start off the top of my head.

Do you go to an Apostolic church that baptizes by immersion in Jesus Name & does your church preach & practice recieving the HGB evidenced by sepaking in tongues?

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I do believe this place has changed.

The coversations are stale.

That, and the constant jabs at Christianity, authority, submission and Pentecostalism get very, very old.

AFF has turned into an instant messaging tool where people talk about silly, inconsequential, feminine things instead of the religious site it was intended to be.

The level of intelligent discourse has descended into the abyss.

All of this is not to say I don't enjoy a good laugh.

But when the entire premise of the forum is utter idiocy, and every substantial thread ends in either extramarital flirting and/or atheistic and/or agnostic posters tearing down Christianity as a whole, I think the original purpose of this forum is perverted.

I love the owners and admin here, but the site is failing.

That's why I rarely post.

And friends, I am nowhere close to an ultracon.

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But of course. Minus, I suppose, the exodus.

Hmmm. The uncloistered and cloistered, eh?

How about the Egyptians and Hebrews. Or the faith non-contending and contending.

You have your analogy. :)

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Yes, the church I go to baptizes by immersion in Jesus name and teaches a believer will speak in other tongues when they receive the Holy Spirit.

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Again this man has spoken the truth. This is NOT a lib verses con thing it is a Apostolic or not thing?

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Thank you.

There is one!:thumbsup:thumbsup

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:smack

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I agree there seems to be a lot of departure from apostolic doctrine. I am apostolic all the way! :D

We are currently making a video series for online viewing of LT Smith's "Rightly Dividing The Word" 2-day bible study which lays out apostolic doctrine in detail from the scriptures. Will tell you when it is out.

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:waving

Me. I do.