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Praxeas 07-29-2009 08:47 PM

LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
Can someone with experience give some info for having these in a church. Seats maybe 300 is a wide church so not that long.

We have a projector and screen but Im not happy with it and the lights wash it out

Im looking at two screens possible.

Esther 07-29-2009 08:55 PM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
I think the LCD may be the better way IF it is a flat screen. I understand the Plasma tends to burn images into the screen.

commonsense 07-29-2009 09:02 PM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
As I understand it, both have their good and bad features. Check on the viewing from close distances and also if you're viewing from the side at an angle.
A good site for information is Crutchfield.com

Praxeas 07-30-2009 12:21 AM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
Thanks. Since I want to get 2 I don't think viewing angle will be that much of a problem

PreachingMoney 07-30-2009 01:26 AM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 779971)
Can someone with experience give some info for having these in a church. Seats maybe 300 is a wide church so not that long.

We have a projector and screen but Im not happy with it and the lights wash it out

Im looking at two screens possible.

Neither

Praxeas 07-30-2009 01:30 AM

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You know what I like about being admin? I can check IP address and kinda figure out what turkey is playing games under another nick name :spit

acjcpastor 07-30-2009 07:55 AM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
Here's my 2 cents. We recently made a change in our media presentation for the same reasons. In my research, I found that Plasma's are better than they used to be when it comes to burn in on the screen and the prices have dropped quite a bit. However, plasma's have a glassier look to the screen and you might have a new problem with your lights reflecting off the screen instead of washing it out. Also, in the larger size you'd be looking for, LCD's are still rather expensive, especially when compared to projectors. We decided to just get a better projector and it has made a world of difference. I'd recommend looking for something with at least 3000 lumens and you'll avoid the wash out from windows and lights. I found a brand new NEC on ebay that puts out 3500 lumens and it cost around $900 with shipping. It will project at least twice the size of your best LCD or Plasma and we have no washout issues with the lights and shades up on a sunny Sunday morning.

KWSS1976 07-30-2009 07:57 AM

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From what I heard if it is a well lit area the LCD would be better in a darker setting Plasma would be better I do know the colors on a Plasma are a little better then LCD. I just did my homework between the two I ended up getting a 42"LCD over the plasma they say with the new plasma that burn in is really not an issue anymore..

commonsense 07-30-2009 08:48 AM

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We bought a 50" Panasonic plasma about 6 weeks ago. We love it!

edjen01 07-30-2009 02:58 PM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
i deal with this stuff a lot...in churches and everywhere else. with the cost of projectors & screens dropping so fast....i'm not sure if you want to limit yourself by going with a LCD/Plasma. However....if money is no object....LCDLCDLCDLCD.

But also...check the wires you are sending the signal over...they can be the cause a denigrated picture.

Praxeas 07-30-2009 04:30 PM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acjcpastor (Post 780073)
Here's my 2 cents. We recently made a change in our media presentation for the same reasons. In my research, I found that Plasma's are better than they used to be when it comes to burn in on the screen and the prices have dropped quite a bit. However, plasma's have a glassier look to the screen and you might have a new problem with your lights reflecting off the screen instead of washing it out. Also, in the larger size you'd be looking for, LCD's are still rather expensive, especially when compared to projectors. We decided to just get a better projector and it has made a world of difference. I'd recommend looking for something with at least 3000 lumens and you'll avoid the wash out from windows and lights. I found a brand new NEC on ebay that puts out 3500 lumens and it cost around $900 with shipping. It will project at least twice the size of your best LCD or Plasma and we have no washout issues with the lights and shades up on a sunny Sunday morning.

With two screens I can move then away from the lights

As it is or projector screen is too near a light source and there is no other way to situate the screen

The other issue is I don't really want a big size. IF we had a large platform and a higher roof it can be done. I'd put the screen in the middle.

But that isn't the case. Our roof is relatively low. As the screen is now,when the bass player stands he blocks it. If the drummer stands or raises his hands, same thing.

With smaller, wide screen plasmas, I can put them closer to the congregation, not drop down as low as a projector screen. This would be purely for lyrics and bible text. We can keep the projector and use it for when we need to project video or images for teaching illustration

Praxeas 07-30-2009 04:38 PM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 780101)
We bought a 50" Panasonic plasma about 6 weeks ago. We love it!

For church?

Praxeas 07-30-2009 04:42 PM

Re: LCD or Plasma Screens?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edjen01 (Post 780343)
i deal with this stuff a lot...in churches and everywhere else. with the cost of projectors & screens dropping so fast....i'm not sure if you want to limit yourself by going with a LCD/Plasma. However....if money is no object....LCDLCDLCDLCD.

But also...check the wires you are sending the signal over...they can be the cause a denigrated picture.

See my other posts. We already have a projector. The issue is the church building itself. Money is an issue though that is why I am looking at options.

Like I said our building is not long. The LCD/Plasma screens would be closer to the congregation than our projector screen so it does not necessarily need to be the size of our projector screen.

Our problem is that the screen is bathed in light, no place to move it, low roof etc etc. Even if the Lums were bright it would not change anything

Monkeyman 07-30-2009 04:56 PM

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Definite LCD, the Plasma will glare too much at diifferent angles.

edjen01 07-30-2009 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 780467)
See my other posts. We already have a projector. The issue is the church building itself. Money is an issue though that is why I am looking at options.

Like I said our building is not long. The LCD/Plasma screens would be closer to the congregation than our projector screen so it does not necessarily need to be the size of our projector screen.

Our problem is that the screen is bathed in light, no place to move it, low roof etc etc. Even if the Lums were bright it would not change anything

cool. i was just thinking of the investment still being usable should you ever change your current sanctuary.

if there is a lot of light....then go with the LCD for sure. i've done this in areas where a person was not sure...get a plasma & LCD screen(borrow or buy and return)...same size and put it in the space where it will be used and see how the lighting is. the screens dont have to be as large as you want...but this will let you see what the light reflections will do to both screens.

FWIW...Lums & contrast ratio make all the difference...we set up screens/projectors outside in the daylight and watch movies and games.

CC1 07-30-2009 10:16 PM

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The "burn in" issue with Plasma's has pretty much been solved with the latest generation of models.

Plasma's are typically brighter and that is an advantage in a situation where the room is well lit.

I can't remember between Plasma's and LCD's which has the better viewing angle but that should also be a consideration so you would want to research that.

For the first few years Plasma's were vastly superior to LCD's but the last two years or so the refresh rate and other things that make up the quality of picture have improved greatly on LCD's so there is very little difference with a Plasma.


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