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coadie 08-05-2009 01:09 PM

Green jobs.
 
Quote:

House Orders Up Three Elite Jets
August 5, 2009
By Paul Singer
Roll Call Staff
Last year, lawmakers excoriated the CEOs of the Big Three automakers for traveling to Washington, D.C., by private jet to attend a hearing about a possible bailout of their companies.

But apparently Congress is not philosophically averse to private air travel: At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.

The Air Force had asked for one Gulfstream 550 jet (price tag: about $65 million) as part of an ongoing upgrade of its passenger air service.

But the House Appropriations Committee, at its own initiative, added to the 2010 Defense appropriations bill another $132 million for two more airplanes and specified that they be assigned to the D.C.-area units that carry Members of Congress, military brass and top government officials.

Because the Appropriations Committee viewed the additional aircraft as an expansion of an existing Defense Department program, it did not treat the money for two more planes as an earmark, and the legislation does not disclose which Member had requested the additional money.

An Appropriations Committee staffer said the military was already planning to replace its passenger fleet, and the committee “looked at the request and decided they should speed up the replacement.”

The Gulfstream G550 is a luxury business jet, which the company advertises as featuring long-range flight capacity that “easily links Washington, D.C., with Dubai, London with Singapore and Tokyo with Paris.” The company’s promotional materials say, “The cabin aboard the G550 combines productivity with exceptional comfort. It features up to four distinct living areas, three temperature zones, a choice of 12 floor plan configurations with seating for up to 18 passengers.”

The version Gulfstream sells to the military is reconfigured for the government with modest accommodations, not the luxury version sold to private customers, said a source familiar with the planes.

Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) had submitted a request to the Appropriations Committee for a $70 million earmark for one airplane on behalf of Georgia-based Gulfstream, and Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) lists the airplane as one of the earmarks that he was asked to request, though his office said he never made the request to the Appropriations Committee.

“The committee saw fit to fund it at that level” without Kingston’s involvement, his spokesman said.
Gotta trade in those 3 year old Learjet clunkers. One of these machines creates as much CO2 in 1 hour as is generated by 12,000 people driving the family car to church on Sunday in Amerika.

Esther 08-05-2009 01:22 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) had submitted a request to the Appropriations Committee for a $70 million earmark for one airplane on behalf of Georgia-based Gulfstream, and Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) lists the airplane as one of the earmarks that he was asked to request, though his office said he never made the request to the Appropriations Committee.

“The committee saw fit to fund it at that level” without Kingston’s involvement, his spokesman said.

WOW! Some folks have lots of gall. {southern term}

coadie 08-05-2009 01:25 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 783422)
Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) had submitted a request to the Appropriations Committee for a $70 million earmark for one airplane on behalf of Georgia-based Gulfstream, and Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) lists the airplane as one of the earmarks that he was asked to request, though his office said he never made the request to the Appropriations Committee.

“The committee saw fit to fund it at that level” without Kingston’s involvement, his spokesman said.

WOW! Some folks have lots of gall. {southern term}

Remember when Obama spit on the RV Industry in Elkhardt indiana? Is was so horrible for retired people to drive these motor homes. They use a lot of fuel and pay a lot of labor.

A liberal in a jet, can burn more carbon in a long trip than a motorhome uses in 10 years.

Esther 08-05-2009 01:31 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 783424)
Remember when Obama spit on the RV Industry in Elkhardt indiana? Is was so horrible for retired people to drive these motor homes. They use a lot of fuel and pay a lot of labor.

A liberal in a jet, can burn more carbon in a long trip than a motorhome uses in 10 years.

Obama doesn't seem to care for the elderly. He wants to offer consultation on how they should end it.

coadie 08-05-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
So Gov Plain will put these on e-bay. It sure looks like Palin will have a lot of corruption to clean up. Actually she could have prevented this.

Esther 08-05-2009 03:05 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 783502)
So Gov Plain will put these on e-bay. It sure looks like Palin will have a lot of corruption to clean up. Actually she could have prevented this.

??????????

coadie 08-05-2009 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 783514)
??????????

Palin put Alaska state jet on e-bay when she checked into office. Said it wasted far too much money. Now someone will need to sell the gulfstreams we don't need.

Esther 08-05-2009 03:50 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 783533)
Palin put Alaska state jet on e-bay when she checked into office. Said it wasted far too much money. Now someone will need to sell the gulfstreams we don't need.

lol Gotcha...good luck on that. :ursofunny

SOUNWORTHY 08-06-2009 12:46 AM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 783424)
Remember when Obama spit on the RV Industry in Elkhardt indiana? Is was so horrible for retired people to drive these motor homes. They use a lot of fuel and pay a lot of labor.

A liberal in a jet, can burn more carbon in a long trip than a motorhome uses in 10 years.

I need to know,Did Obama really say that? I've worked two jobs most of my life and am at least 11 years past full retirement. I'm gonna hit the road tomorrow in my 40 ft diesel guzzler and thumb my nose at Obama and his molty crew!! I earned it and God made it possible for me to have it.

coadie 08-06-2009 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 783856)
I need to know,Did Obama really say that? I've worked two jobs most of my life and am at least 11 years past full retirement. I'm gonna hit the road tomorrow in my 40 ft diesel guzzler and thumb my nose at Obama and his molty crew!! I earned it and God made it possible for me to have it.

Have a good time. The day comes when they will install a mileage monitor at a security checkpoint and you can pay mileage tax. Just a little actual trivia. In terms of total cost including equipment and energy, your motor coach with 3 people in it is more economical per passenger mile than passenger trains are in America.

Light 08-06-2009 06:35 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 783436)
Obama doesn't seem to care for the elderly. He wants to offer consultation on how they should end it.

Why are you spreading that lie? Do some checking for your self.

coadie 08-06-2009 07:34 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther
Obama doesn't seem to care for the elderly. He wants to offer consultation on how they should end it.

Why are you spreading that lie? Do some checking for your self.
we did. Lie and deny is all the Barnie drones do.
While yopu lie, I have read the bill and remind you "end of life counseling" is required to be offered paying for a translator if necessary





PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life.

PG 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.

PG 429 Lines 1-9 An “advance care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

PG 429 Lines 13-25 The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order. Logan ’s Run anyone?

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Will Obama drones tell the truth?




Light 08-08-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 784386)
we did. Lie and deny is all the Barnie drones do.
While yopu lie, I have read the bill and remind you "end of life counseling" is required to be offered paying for a translator if necessary


Notice coadi will use the words Government will mandate several times in the following quotes. These are false statements.
When you read (if you really want the truth) bill you will see that this section is about sustaining life as long as possible, not ending life as coadi says.



Quote:

By coadi
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life.

PG 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.
All Quotes that have red wording are lies.

Page 425 of the actual bill

1 ‘‘(FF) advance care planning consultation (as
2 defined in subsection (hhh)(1));’’; and
3 (B) by adding at the end the following new
4 subsection:
5 ‘‘Advance Care Planning Consultation
6 ‘‘(hhh)(1) Subject to paragraphs (3) and (4), the
7 term ‘advance care planning consultation’ means a con8
sultation between the individual and a practitioner de9
scribed in paragraph (2) regarding advance care planning,
10 if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has
11 not had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such
12 consultation shall include the following:
13 ‘‘(A) An explanation by the practitioner of
14advance care planning, including key questions and
15 considerations, important steps, and suggested peo16
ple to talk to.
17 ‘‘(B) An explanation by the practitioner of ad18
vance directives, including living wills and durable
19 powers of attorney, and their uses.
20 ‘‘(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the
21 role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.
22 ‘‘(D) The provision by the practitioner of a list
23 of national and State-specific resources to assist con24
sumers and their families with advance care plan25
ning,


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by coadi
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.
Again all red letters are lies.

PG 427 line 15-24 as it is written without the lies.


15 ‘‘(iii) A program for orders for life sustaining
16 treatment for a States described in this clause is a
17 program that—
18 ‘‘(I) ensures such orders are standardized
19 and uniquely identifiable throughout the State;
20 ‘‘(II) distributes or makes accessible such
21 orders to physicians and other health profes22
sionals that (acting within the scope of the pro23
fessional’s authority under State law) may sign
24 orders for life sustaining treatment;
VerDate Nov


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by coadi
PG 429 Lines 1-9 An “advance care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

PG 429 Lines 13-25 The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order. Logan ’s Run anyone?
Again words in red letters are lies.

429 Page 1-25
1 ‘‘(B) An advance care planning consultation with
2 respect to an individual may be conducted more frequently
3 than provided under paragraph (1) if there is a significant
4 change in the health condition of the individual, including
5 diagnosis of a chronic, progressive, life-limiting disease, a
6 life-threatening or terminal diagnosis or life-threatening
7 injury, or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a
8 long-term care facility (as defined by the Secretary), or
9 a hospice program.
10 ‘‘(4) A consultation under this subsection may in11
clude the formulation of an order regarding life sustaining
12 treatment or a similar order.
13 ‘‘(5)(A) For purposes of this section, the term ‘order
14 regarding life sustaining treatment’ means, with respect
15 to an individual, an actionable medical order relating to
16 the treatment of that individual that—
17 ‘‘(i) is signed and dated by a physician (as de18
fined in subsection (r)(1)) or another health care
19 professional (as specified by the Secretary and who
20 is acting within the scope of the professional’s au21
thority under State law in signing such an order, in22
cluding a nurse practitioner or physician assistant)
23 and is in a form that permits it to stay with the in24
dividual and be followed by health care professionals
25 and providers across the continuum of care;

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By coadi
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Will Obama drones tell the truth?

Again red letter words are lies.

Page 430 lines 11-24
11 ‘‘(B) The level of treatment indicated under
12 subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment
13to an indication to limit some or all or specified
14 interventions. Such indicated levels of treatment may
15inlude indications respecting, among other items—
16 ‘‘(i) the intensity of medical intervention if the
17 patient is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac
18 or pulmonary problems;
19 ‘‘(ii) the individual’s desire regarding transfer
20 to a hospital or remaining at the current care setting;
21
22 ‘‘(iii) the use of antibiotics; and
23 ‘‘(iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration.’’.

Line 21 only has a partial word.= ting the last 4 letters of the word setting.

If you read the complete post you can see how coadi distorts facts.

coadie 08-08-2009 12:21 PM

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Page 430 lines 11-24
11 ‘‘(B) The level of treatment indicated under
12 subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment
13to an indication to limit some or all or specified
14 interventions. Such indicated levels of treatment may
15inlude indications respecting, among other items—
16 ‘‘(i) the intensity of medical intervention if the
17 patient is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac
18 or pulmonary problems;19 ‘‘(ii) the individual’s desire regarding transfer
20 to a hospital or remaining at the current care setting;
21
22 ‘‘(iii) the use of antibiotics; and
23 ‘‘(iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration.’’.


Limit means pull the tubes. Abortion is a form of limiting.



Shut 'er down. I take it light has no health care experience.

coadie 08-08-2009 12:39 PM

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20 ‘‘(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the
21 role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.
And the Obama drones assume they will elect their own proxy. it doesn't say that. These pro abortion socialists don't know what health care rationing for Seniors looks like. People with any brains are reading these documents and showing up for clarification. The socialists run from responding.
Light you really aren't educated enough to know every reatemen can require a phone call and consent from the great cube farm in Washington. King Hussein will have people decide what you have spent on you.

coadie 08-08-2009 12:41 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.h...04f50204809c04

Here boys and girls is what health care rationing looks like.

When the Obama adherents say it isn't so, they can't prove it. it may be worse. Remember indian Health is from the same government and has been refined for how many years?

Light 08-08-2009 01:15 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 785149)
Page 430 lines 11-24
11 ‘‘(B) The level of treatment indicated under
12 subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment
13to an indication to limit some or all or specified
14 interventions. Such indicated levels of treatment may
15inlude indications respecting, among other items—
16 ‘‘(i) the intensity of medical intervention if the
17 patient is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac
18 or pulmonary problems;19 ‘‘(ii) the individual’s desire regarding transfer
20 to a hospital or remaining at the current care setting;
21
22 ‘‘(iii) the use of antibiotics; and
23 ‘‘(iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration.’’.


Limit means pull the tubes. Abortion is a form of limiting.



Shut 'er down. I take it light has no health care experience.

The lunatic fringe :nutso. uses omission to promote their lies. If all of the bill is used their lies stand out. That is why they omit much of the bill. They are the worst kind of deceiver.
Notice when the lies are proven to be lies they turn to abortion.

Light 08-08-2009 01:19 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 785155)
And the Obama drones assume they will elect their own proxy. it doesn't say that. These pro abortion socialists don't know what health care rationing for Seniors looks like. People with any brains are reading these documents and showing up for clarification. The socialists run from responding.
Light you really aren't educated enough to know every reatemen can require a phone call and consent from the great cube farm in Washington. King Hussein will have people decide what you have spent on you.

If you are an example of an educated CHRISTIAN this is my prayer.

Please God let me and mine be the opposite of this man.

coadie 08-08-2009 10:33 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
WASHINGTON -- Congress plans to spend $550 million to buy eight jets, a substantial upgrade to the fleet used by federal officials at a time when lawmakers have criticized the use of corporate jets by companies receiving taxpayer funds.

The purchases will help accommodate growing travel demand by congressional officials. The planes augment a fleet of about two dozen passenger jets maintained by the Air Force for lawmakers, administration officials and military chiefs to fly on government trips in the U.S. and abroad.

This is for the Democart elite Fleet. Congress makes halliburtion look like a thrift shop.

Light 08-09-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 785321)
WASHINGTON -- Congress plans to spend $550 million to buy eight jets, a substantial upgrade to the fleet used by federal officials at a time when lawmakers have criticized the use of corporate jets by companies receiving taxpayer funds.

The purchases will help accommodate growing travel demand by congressional officials. The planes augment a fleet of about two dozen passenger jets maintained by the Air Force for lawmakers, administration officials and military chiefs to fly on government trips in the U.S. and abroad.

This is for the Democart elite Fleet. Congress makes halliburtion look like a thrift shop.

Changing the subject:bigbaby??


:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah :blah

commonsense 08-09-2009 11:19 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
I fail to understand how educated folks in America can be duped by this current administration.
Yes, each side puts their own spin on current events but..........even if you're not a Fox news junkie, wake up and smell the coffee! :hypercoffee

The Democrats are not to be trusted. Read your history. Check out all of the programs from the '30's with FDR. We're still paying for some of those decisions....

SOUNWORTHY 08-12-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 785660)
I fail to understand how educated folks in America can be duped by this current administration.
Yes, each side puts their own spin on current events but..........even if you're not a Fox news junkie, wake up and smell the coffee! :hypercoffee

The Democrats are not to be trusted. Read your history. Check out all of the programs from the '30's with FDR. We're still paying for some of those decisions....

There's a big difference between educated and smart. Some of the dumbest people I have met have PHD's. (not all of course)

coadie 08-13-2009 10:14 AM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Obama's 'green jobs czar' worked with terror founder
Van Jones served on board of activist group where ex-Weatherman serves as top director

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106653

The green jobs czar. There are 90 billion dollars earmarked for green jobs.
The czar had NOT Defined what "green Jobs" are.

Quote:

Jones, formerly a self-described "rowdy black nationalist," boasted in a 2005 interview with the left-leaning East Bay Express that his environmental activism was a means to fight for racial and class "justice
Fighting for justice means vengeance.

coadie 08-31-2009 08:02 AM

Re: Green jobs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 787785)
Obama's 'green jobs czar' worked with terror founder
Van Jones served on board of activist group where ex-Weatherman serves as top director

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106653

The green jobs czar. There are 90 billion dollars earmarked for green jobs.
The czar had NOT Defined what "green Jobs" are.


Fighting for justice means vengeance.

http://web.archive.org/web/200707190...MSummation.pdf

Quote:

STORM's manifesto boasted, "We also saw our brand of Marxism as, in some ways, a reclamation."

One section of the manifesto described of a vigil that Jones' group held Sept. 12, 2001, at Snow Park in Oakland, Calif. The event drew hundreds and articulated an "anti-imperialist" line, according to STORM's own description.
http://web.archive.org/web/200707190...MSummation.pdf
Jones is the green jobs czar. He is also a communist:

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Quote:

I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist.

"I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next 10 years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary," he said
53 pages on getting a communist movement ramped up.


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