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Sinatra 08-26-2009 12:56 AM

Sen. Edward Kennedy dies
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090826/us_nm/us_kennedy

Irreligious 08-26-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinatra (Post 793249)


I mourn the loss of one of our nations leaders. This particular illness of a brain tumor strikes particularly close to the heart of my family.

RandyWayne 08-26-2009 01:01 AM

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I can't help but think of all the random people who have died today either in hospital beds or on the highway or on the job, who have done FAR more good for this country then Kennedy ever did.......

....yet will not get the days of televised funeral and memorial services that Teddy will receive.

Threads 08-26-2009 02:50 AM

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Teddy wll finally get to answer to his maker. There won't be any getting around this one.

Evang.Benincasa 08-26-2009 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 793252)
I can't help but think of all the random people who have died today either in hospital beds or on the highway or on the job, who have done FAR more good for this country then Kennedy ever did.......

....yet will not get the days of televised funeral and memorial services that Teddy will receive.

:thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa 08-26-2009 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Threads (Post 793256)
Teddy wll finally get to answer to his maker. There won't be any getting around this one.

Mary Jo Kopechne would of been 69 years old by now.

People may be able to escape and evade the law, but no one will escape the judgement of the Lord.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

TheLegalist 08-26-2009 07:36 AM

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It's sad someone dies. I will not though mourn the loss of his actions and political positions. I find little to celebrate of his life. Being a Senator means nothing it's what you do with the position. So what idiots elected him so many years as he got paid nicely and had political power.... Wow what a service of selflessness of giving he did of stroking his ego and his families.

Rhoni 08-26-2009 07:48 AM

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I just remember the incident and the untimely death of a young lady.

CC1 08-26-2009 07:56 AM

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My thoughts and prayers go out to the Kennedy family but truly this is not a man to praise. He was despicable from his cheating days in law school, through leaving the scene of an accident he caused that resulted in the death of a young woman, and on through his many other scandals and misbehaviour.

I found it ironic that in the last few days he tried to get Mass. to change the succession law so that when he died the Governor could immediately appoint a successor, rather than a special election being held, to help the Democrats with the healthcare vote. This was the same law he championed five years ago when a Republican was Governor of Mass. and Kennedy wanted to make sure that a Republican Governor could NOT appoint a Senatorial successor. Duplicitous to the very end.

coadie 08-26-2009 08:06 AM

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I pray for his family to seek comfort in The Almighty ONE.

Barb 08-26-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 793277)
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Kennedy family but truly this is not a man to praise. He was despicable from his cheating days in law school, through leaving the scene of an accident he caused that resulted in the death of a young woman, and on through his many other scandals and misbehaviour.

I found it ironic that in the last few days he tried to get Mass. to change the succession law so that when he died the Governor could immediately appoint a successor, rather than a special election being held, to help the Democrats with the healthcare vote. This was the same law he championed five years ago when a Republican was Governor of Mass. and Kennedy wanted to make sure that a Republican Governor could NOT appoint a Senatorial successor. Duplicitous to the very end.

Not ironic at all, CCRyder...it's simply following the 'party line'.

Change any rule, attempt to change any law, vote for any junkyard dog as long as we don't cross the 'party line'.

Bob Schieffer on CBS this morning said that Chappiquiddick was the thing that hung over TK's head, and kept him from the presidency.

But he also said that TK was a flawed man who went on to do some good things. I'm sure the commentators and those doing the research will find the things to which Mr. Schieffer referred.

As you said, at the moment our prayers are with the family...this is the 2nd family death in as many weeks.

StillStanding 08-26-2009 08:19 AM

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Ted Kennedy was an American political figure. That's all I'll say! :)

*AQuietPlace* 08-26-2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 793283)
Ted Kennedy was an American political figure. That's all I'll say! :)

And it will seem odd to not have him around, he's been a part of the political scene for so long.

I hope his family finds comfort in their recent losses.

Pressing-On 08-26-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 793283)
Ted Kennedy was an American political figure. That's all I'll say! :)

You did good, Steinway. A little more than I was willing to say. :D

Esther 08-26-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 793277)
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Kennedy family but truly this is not a man to praise. He was despicable from his cheating days in law school, through leaving the scene of an accident he caused that resulted in the death of a young woman, and on through his many other scandals and misbehaviour.

I found it ironic that in the last few days he tried to get Mass. to change the succession law so that when he died the Governor could immediately appoint a successor, rather than a special election being held, to help the Democrats with the healthcare vote. This was the same law he championed five years ago when a Republican was Governor of Mass. and Kennedy wanted to make sure that a Republican Governor could NOT appoint a Senatorial successor. Duplicitous to the very end.

:thumbsup My thoughts exactly!

Esther 08-26-2009 08:37 AM

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I prayed for years that God would bring this man down. He supported every abomination that God was against.

I think he was the worst senator we ever had in the American congress.

I hope his soul was right with God, but I am so glad he is out of power, and pray they don't elect someone of his equal or worse.

I also think it was ridiculous that they woke the president up to tell him he passed. Like this was a major occurance that he needed to be woke up for! Nuts!!

coadie 08-26-2009 08:39 AM

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despite the shadow of Chappaquiddick

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1517548.stm

The BBC can speak more than the American liberal media. Kennedy was strong for abortion and Eunice Kennedy Shriver was pro life.

Hope Preacher 08-26-2009 08:52 AM

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Whatever you believe about his lifestyle or his politics, Ted Kennedy will be remembered as a statesman... His family has given much to this country; A son who died in war; a son who died as President; a son who died while running for president; and now, a son who has died in the office of senator.

coadie 08-26-2009 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hope Preacher (Post 793303)
Whatever you believe about his lifestyle or his politics, Ted Kennedy will be remembered as a statesman... His family has given much to this country; A son who died in war; a son who died as President; a son who died while running for president; and now, a son who has died in the office of senator.

Bootlegging booze is giving?

This was first:



Politization of Kennedy's death
August 26, 2009 - 07:03 ET by ThisnThat
And who was first to make his death political? Pelosi, of course. She immediately linked his death to "passing health care reform this year".

U376977 08-26-2009 09:10 AM

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Put politics and his actions aside. He is dead. Let the man rest. His soul and eternal destiney in the hand of God.

n david 08-26-2009 09:15 AM

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Good riddance. The man was a drunk and committed manslaughter. No joy in his death, but won't be mourning him as some great politician.

Hope Preacher 08-26-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 793306)
Bootlegging booze is giving?

This was first:



Politization of Kennedy's death
August 26, 2009 - 07:03 ET by ThisnThat
And who was first to make his death political? Pelosi, of course. She immediately linked his death to "passing health care reform this year".

My dad, my grandfather (on both sides) and my great grandfather were bootleggers -but that alone does not describe who they are.

TheLegalist 08-26-2009 09:32 AM

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Well.... when I see the media in many cases make him out to be some great man.... sorry I will be right beside them shouting what a disaster this man was for America and it's politics. The media can create a impression on what was acceptable and say "well let's just focus on the good things" Well, sorry but who he is is not just good things.

D. Wright 08-26-2009 09:36 AM

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Brother, you have really been preaching your warped message all over this forum as of late.

crakjak 08-26-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hope Preacher (Post 793316)
My dad, my grandfather (on both sides) and my great grandfather were bootleggers -but that alone does not describe who they are.

"And such were some of us...."

TheLegalist 08-26-2009 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by D. Wright (Post 793323)
Brother, you have really been preaching your warped message all over this forum as of late.

def warped....

crakjak 08-26-2009 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by D. Wright (Post 793340)
It seems the post is deleted now, so I will refrain.

Not by me, seems I offended Prax. lol

jackbauer 08-26-2009 10:24 AM

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Just remember the senator supported abortion and had a large part in it remaining legal.
He is answering to God for that now.

MissBrattified 08-26-2009 10:31 AM

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There are some people I just can't feel sorry for. Capiche? This is newsworthy, but it certainly didn't cause a tear to come to my eye. If that makes me bad, so be it.

The Kennedys have had a lot of tragedies, many brought upon their own heads, in my opinion. I don't believe that families can be cursed, but I DO believe they can espouse an acceptance of immorality and a lack of character through generations which will define their lives--and their deaths.

MissBrattified 08-26-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 793338)
Not nearly as warped as preaching that our God whose mercy is "everlasting", has created a customized torture chamber to torment His highest order of creation without hope....!!

Does it offend you that God has the power and the love to eventually redeem Senator Kennedy? (BTW: I was regularly offended by his politics)

I'm just a simpleton, crakjak; I believe what the Word says:

Luke 13:24-28
...Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
...When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
...Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
...But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
...There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.


Why would we ever seek to convert anyone, if everyone will be saved in the end? Is there any purpose to evangelism, or any reason we should live a devoted life to Christ?

Irreligious 08-26-2009 11:03 AM

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I'm appalled by what I'm reading. Wow. I even saw one say, "Good riddance." Unbelievable.

crakjak 08-26-2009 11:18 AM

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Edited by Admin, AGAIN. Check your PM.

coadie 08-26-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 793324)
"And such were some of us...."

I remember the past.
The closest I got to Kennedy was seeing his house at night near Miami from the Intercoastal waterway. They had their nightly party and alcohol and drugs. I recall a rape event that was there and in the news.

coadie 08-26-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Irreligious (Post 793417)
I'm appalled by what I'm reading. Wow. I even saw one say, "Good riddance." Unbelievable.

Randall Hoven pointed out that Barack Obama has insulted an amazing range of people. So it's no surprise to note that he insulted Ted Kennedy, too.

In late, 2003, this is what Barack Obama had to say of Ted Kennedy on Kennedy's efforts to pass a prescription drug bill:


Quote:

He is getting old and getting tired.

Ferd 08-26-2009 11:28 AM

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I dont morn his passing at all. My only prayer for the Kennedy clan is that they repent for the MANY sins and find Christ.

Teddy is now in the hands of his God and I for one would not want to be in Gods hands with Ted's record.

I wont be crass and make jokes. But in all honesty this man was a great mover in the senate for America's LOSS in Vietnam and he revivied that role when we joined the battle in Iraq. As a general rule Ted Kennedy belived that defeat and surrender was the path to victory in war. Thank God he was not in the senate in 1940.

Ted Kennedy played a primary role in creating the healtcare system that has currently failed us. in the 1970's he worked tirelessly to change healthcare and how it works. He succeeded and we now live with the mess.

Ted Kennedy did great harm to America as a politician. We all know what kind of man he was. in so many respects his name is a byword and a bloody joke.

The truely aweful part of all this is that some think he was a great man. That saddens me.

coadie 08-26-2009 11:37 AM

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What is Dr. Ezekial Emanuel's position on the late Ted Kennedy's treatments?

As Noemie Emery states in the Washington Examiner about Sen. Kennedy:


"According to the Politico, some of his drugs may cost $50,000 for one treatment, while the Obama plan relies on trimming back the expense and the scope of the end-of-life treatments given the elderly when they become very ill."

My more-than-rhetorical question for Dr. Emanuel is this: Do you consider these expensive treatments given to the late Sen. Kennedy a waste of the medical resources? Ted Kennedy's Senatorial medical insurance was funded by the federal government. These days few private institutions do not benefit indirectly or directly from the federal governments expenditures on medical education, Medicare or other programs.

So I ask again, we know Dr. Emanuel's general position against using extraordinary and expensive measures to extend the life of senior citizens. Does his position also apply to Sen. Kennedy's situation and is he willing to say that in public?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...nedy_dead.html

the raven 08-26-2009 11:42 AM

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Senetor Kennedy was a great American patriot! He should be enshrined and beatified! I am appalled at what I am witnessing on nthis forum as insults, retribution and malignity are being hurled forth in the name of freedom of speech.

Hark my fellows do you hear the words of the Spirit...cans't thou not tell from whence many of you have benefitted from the soul of one, Edward Kennedy?

How is it that you can speak thus and thus of one so esteemed by his country men?





I must say I agree with you! :thumbsup

MissBrattified 08-26-2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 793277)
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Kennedy family but truly this is not a man to praise. He was despicable from his cheating days in law school, through leaving the scene of an accident he caused that resulted in the death of a young woman, and on through his many other scandals and misbehaviour.

I found it ironic that in the last few days he tried to get Mass. to change the succession law so that when he died the Governor could immediately appoint a successor, rather than a special election being held, to help the Democrats with the healthcare vote. This was the same law he championed five years ago when a Republican was Governor of Mass. and Kennedy wanted to make sure that a Republican Governor could NOT appoint a Senatorial successor. Duplicitous to the very end.

Good post. The politically correct idea is that once someone dies, we forget everything bad they did, and pretend they are to be celebrated, even if they were purely evil.

I don't do that with Hitler or Saddam; I don't know why I would do it with Ted Kennedy. When I teach my kids about Hitler or Saddam, I fill them in on all the evil and horrors those men orchestrated. When I teach them about the Kennedy family, I show them how a pattern of immorality and an overall lack of character leads to great tragedy and loss.

In order for a death to have personal impact, there has to be some sense of loss. I have no sense of loss here, other than the sad idea that yet another evil man has met his maker.

the raven 08-26-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 793460)
Good post. The politically correct idea is that once someone dies, we forget everything bad they did, and pretend they are to be celebrated, even if they were purely evil.

I don't do that with Hitler or Saddam; I don't know why I would do it with Ted Kennedy. When I teach my kids about Hitler or Saddam, I fill them in on all the evil and horrors those men orchestrated. When I teach them about the Kennedy family, I show them how a pattern of immorality and an overall lack of character leads to great tragedy and loss.

In order for a death to have personal impact, there has to be some sense of loss. I have no sense of loss here, other than the sad idea that yet another evil man has met his maker.


Saddam...Hitler...Kennedy....Yep! I agree with the progression...well said!

n david 08-26-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Irreligious (Post 793417)
I'm appalled by what I'm reading. Wow. I even saw one say, "Good riddance." Unbelievable.

Should I have stated a more politically correct, Rest in Peace? I could have been more crass with the twist on RIP - Rot in Pieces, but I didn't. Instead I bid his departure as good riddance.

I'd rejoice at the news of TK's repentence, baptism in the name of Jesus and being filled with the spirit ... regardless of his past. Sadly, I don't believe that happened. He's in the hands of his maker.

So again, good riddance to a drunken, date-killing, adulterous, liberal senator ... I shant shed a tear. Pity to those whom my lack of tears offends.

:2cents


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