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Justin 05-31-2010 12:31 PM

Pentecostal History Youtube videos?
 
Has anyone thought about doing a video series on Youtube about the history of the Pentecostal movement (PACJ/PCI)?

Jack Shephard 05-31-2010 12:44 PM

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It might be tough because some of the "best" historians are against TV. Go figure. LOL

jfrog 05-31-2010 12:47 PM

Re: Pentecostal History Youtube videos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 919311)
Has anyone thought about doing a video series on Youtube about the history of the Pentecostal movement (PACJ/PCI)?

That is actually a great idea! It could even be an AFF project!

Justin 05-31-2010 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 919320)
That is actually a great idea! It could even be an AFF project!

I figure there is enough knowledge floating around here to put a good video together to present the facts fairly and honestly.

Praxeas 05-31-2010 12:57 PM

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You mean like "From Holiness to Cesspool", how a Pentecostal forum went from God's best to the Devils trash?

jfrog 05-31-2010 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 919322)
I figure there is enough knowledge floating around here to put a good video together to present the facts fairly and honestly.

I'm willing to put time into it.

Jack Shephard 05-31-2010 01:12 PM

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On the real I think that it would be very neat to view. I am sure that some people will say it is full of untruths when the video shows some photos of some of the original members in pearls and such. Also it will be interesting to see the reaction when some shows the original text from the PCI manual stating that God is Triune or a Trinity because most of the oneness believers treat those words like curse words that are ok to say.

jfrog 05-31-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 919336)
On the real I think that it would be very neat to view. I am sure that some people will say it is full of untruths when the video shows some photos of some of the original members in pearls and such. Also it will be interesting to see the reaction when some shows the original text from the PCI manual stating that God is Triune or a Trinity because most of the oneness believers treat those words like curse words that are ok to say.

So, I guess the question we need to pose to everyone is: what do you think should be in the video?

I know for me the jewlry ad in the pentecostal herald and the quote that all articles on the new birth are acceptable were both really enlightening to me. Also Pel mentioned some pictures he had seen of his UPC family members that didn't have the apostolic identity going on. Those pictures would be amazing to get in the video ;)

Mirth1981 05-31-2010 01:29 PM

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That would be quite an eye opener for MANY people. I think it's a great idea.

Sam 05-31-2010 02:40 PM

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Actually, the Fudge book documents some of that stuff well.

jfrog 05-31-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 919398)
Actually, the Fudge book documents some of that stuff well.

I agree. I was hoping for some other sources too though. I like primary sources the best :) But some of his research will probably have to go into it.

Apocrypha 05-31-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 919404)
I agree. I was hoping for some other sources too though. I like primary sources the best :) But some of his research will probably have to go into it.

Why not email him? He is on the board here.

Timmy 05-31-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 919322)
I figure there is enough knowledge floating around here to put a good video together to present the facts fairly and honestly.

Can I help? :nutso

jfrog 05-31-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha (Post 919418)
Why not email him? He is on the board here.

Is he? I did not know that.

jfrog 05-31-2010 04:00 PM

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I thought of a few possible titles for such a video.

The UPC: Yesterday and Today
Follow the Old Paths!
The PCI Tradition
The History of UPC Doctrine

Anyone else have any title ideas?

Timmy 05-31-2010 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 919441)
I thought of a few possible titles for such a video.

The UPC: Yesterday and Today
Follow the Old Paths!
The PCI Tradition
The History of UPC Doctrine

Anyone else have any title ideas?

Probably.

:heeheehee

jfrog 05-31-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 919446)
Probably.

:heeheehee

Your not helping! And if your not for this then your against it :P jkjk

Timmy 05-31-2010 04:15 PM

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:D

Apocrypha 05-31-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha (Post 919418)
Why not email him? He is on the board here.

I am pretty sure he popped in here a year or two ago when we were discussing his book.

http://thomasfudge.com/contact.html

jfrog 05-31-2010 04:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocrypha (Post 919454)
I am pretty sure he popped in here a year or two ago when we were discussing his book.

http://thomasfudge.com/contact.html

Awesome. Musta been before my time cause I ain't even been on here for a year!

seekerman 05-31-2010 06:48 PM

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The segment "Oneness Pentecostalism in the 1800's" would be like 5 seconds long. Just long enough for someone to say there ain't any.

Justin 06-09-2010 04:57 PM

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So what are some good sources I could use from 1900 until now? My goal is to be fair and balanced.

Some things that come to mind is Ethel Goss' book, there's a snippet from Christianity without the cross, I have an eletronic copy of Marvin Arnold's book (though many do not agree with his findings)

I would like to start off around or before Azuza street... how it was an Trinitarian only event, then the Topeka Oneness "revelation", followed by the merger between PJAC and PCI all the way to the WPF slip until now.

If there are anymore "major events" please let me know. I would like to develop a script and share it for cross reference.

Apocrypha 06-09-2010 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 922618)
So what are some good sources I could use from 1900 until now? My goal is to be fair and balanced.

Some things that come to mind is Ethel Goss' book, there's a snippet from Christianity without the cross, I have an eletronic copy of Marvin Arnold's book (though many do not agree with his findings)

I would like to start off around or before Azuza street... how it was an Trinitarian only event, then the Topeka Oneness "revelation", followed by the merger between PJAC and PCI all the way to the WPF slip until now.

If there are anymore "major events" please let me know. I would like to develop a script and share it for cross reference.

Frank Bartleman is considered the be the official eye witness chronicler of Azuza and much of early pentecost.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/bartleman/?show=worksBy

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/bartleman/los.i.html#i-Page_1

Thats his stuff scanned in online.

jfrog 06-09-2010 05:09 PM

Re: Pentecostal History Youtube videos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 922618)
So what are some good sources I could use from 1900 until now? My goal is to be fair and balanced.

Some things that come to mind is Ethel Goss' book, there's a snippet from Christianity without the cross, I have an eletronic copy of Marvin Arnold's book (though many do not agree with his findings)

I would like to start off around or before Azuza street... how it was an Trinitarian only event, then the Topeka Oneness "revelation", followed by the merger between PJAC and PCI all the way to the WPF slip until now.

If there are anymore "major events" please let me know. I would like to develop a script and share it for cross reference.

Howard Goss and his beliefs and how he was the first general superintendent of the upc?

The upc affirmation statement and each of its revisions?

Sam 06-09-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha (Post 922619)
Frank Bartleman is considered the be the official eye witness chronicler of Azuza and much of early pentecost.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/bartleman/?show=worksBy

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/bartleman/los.i.html#i-Page_1

Thats his stuff scanned in online.

Thank you for that site.
I didn't know about it.

Sam 06-09-2010 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 922620)
Howard Goss and his beliefs and how he was the first general superintendent of the upc?

The upc affirmation statement and each of its revisions?

Christianity Without The Cross by Thomas Fudge is good.
It tells about the merger in 1945 when the UPC was created and also tells about the subsequent changes. It tells about some of Bro. Goss' beliefs and how he taught them and was treated at the Bible School in California. I would recommend that book to anyone who wants to know about the UPC at its beginning and how it has been changed by some since.

I can furnish a copy in pdf format to anyone who contacts me and gives me an email address where they can receive attachments.

Sam 06-09-2010 05:33 PM

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Some books I would recommend are:
The Phenomenon of Pentecost by Frank Ewart this is a classic

The Winds of God by Ethel Goss tells the story of Bro. Goss, his conversion, his baptism in the Spirit, and his part in organizing the Assemblies of God.

Bro. McClain's book on Church history. This is based on his teaching while at the Bible School in Mississippi

United We Stand by Bro. Clanton, this tells the story of the formation of the UPC

What God Hath Wrought by Bro. Fauss this has been expanded to include a couple of Bro. Fauss' books and it is told from his standpoint of how he came into Jesus' name. It also has some old Bible Studies on the Godhead in it from years back.

I think these are all available from the PPH has books or on a CD.
I can furnish them in pdf format to anyone who will pm me an email address where you can receive attachments.

If you don't hear back from me for a couple of days, don't be alarmed. I will be gone to church tonight and will be spending some time with grandkids tomorrow.

Scott Hutchinson 06-09-2010 09:39 PM

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Check this out.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsS2-...ext=1&index=10

U376977 06-09-2010 11:43 PM

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There was a concise article in the Dictionary of Pentecostals and Charismatics. As I recall it started with Topeka and covered the formation of oneness denoms and their mergers. I think it was written by an AG professor. I spoke with his office several years ago and there were no plans to do an updated version. That would be awesome but a HUGE task.

pelathais 06-10-2010 08:53 AM

Re: Pentecostal History Youtube videos?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocrypha (Post 919454)
I am pretty sure he popped in here a year or two ago when we were discussing his book.

http://thomasfudge.com/contact.html

Neck had contacted him and posted some Q&A back and forth that they had done.


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