Divine revelation ?
 

Does all knowledge we get about God come from divine revelation? If so than how can He hold someone accountable for not obeying the plan of salvation if it was never revealed to them by God? If not than wouldn't that mean we're using our own reasoning to explain God?


ARPH :doggyrun

No.

This reminds me of a question I asked on NFCF, "Does God give every human being an equal opportunity to hear and obey the gospel in this life?" If we are only mildly observant the answer has to be, NO. At least not in the sense that OPs understand the gospel.

Nor in the sense as non OPs understand it

Without God given ability, we would not know our left hand from our right. All divine knowledge and wisdom comes from HIM, as does the natural ability to perceive.

He will "withold no good thing to them who walk uprightly." That includes the knowledge of Him. God continually works to bring all men to the saving knowledge of himself in mysterious ways that we cannot comprehend.

If the eyes of understanding are blind, being a veil upon the heart, it is because of rejection from the heart of some more fundamental understanding that would have led anyone to the greater understanding. It is called "walking in the light." It is called going on from "glory to glory."

"The path of the just is as a shining light that shineth more and more unto the perfect day."

People will be lost because of their sins, and not obeying what truth God has revealed to them already.

Read Romans 1:18-20

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Paul confronts the "fairness issue".

14: What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15: For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16: So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17: For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18: Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21: Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? Rom. 9:14-21

He counters by saying it would not be fair TO GOD AS THE POTTER to not be able to do what HE WANTS with the clay.

Some of these "divine revelation and a brighter light shinning" is no more than someone wanting us to think they are more spiritual than others...
His word is FOREVEr settled in heaven...that does not mean we cannot have a clearer understanding but all these divine revelations...I stay away from..

Sister, a lot of "divine revelation" so called, are nothing but deceptions from hell. Of course, you would not want to accept THAT.

But the Word itself means "The unveiling." Since Jesus is the Word of God, why would you not want Him (the Word) to be divinely REVEALED to you?

Paul prayed in Epesians that the eyes of our understanding would be opened. That is a divne operation.

I accept a divine revelation from God but what I meant so many so called divine revelations appear and lead people into false doctrine.

Divine revelation
 

Bro. Strange,

Great Post! The scripture quoted was one my late father loved. I didn't

understand it when, as my pastor, he would quote it quite often. I have come

to better understand it as a more mature adult. I love it and it is one of my

favorites also, along with:

"The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth

the habitation of the just". Prov. 3:33


"The memory of the just is blessed: But the name of the wicked shall rot".

Prov. 10:7


Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the

LORD, that delighted greatly in his commandments. His seed (children) shall

be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed. Ps.

112:1,2


"Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the

seed of the righteous shall be delivered".

"Most men will proclaim everyone his own goodness,: but a faithful man

who can find"? Prov. 20:6


"The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are blessed after him".

Prov. 20: 7


"And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vine-

yards, and eat the fruit of them. They shall not build, and another inhabit;

they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days

of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. They

shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed

(children) of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. And it

shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are

yet speaking, I will hear". Isaiah 65: 21-24

Who would not want to carry on the heritage of the just man, the righteous

man and the faithful man! The blessed man!

Ps. 14:5, ".....for God is in the generation of the righteous". God made man

to be upright and may provision for him to partake of His righteousness. He

provided the power for man to be able to do right. By looking to Him as a

loving Father to provide what we needed. Maybe we feel we do not have a

chance to be what we need to be to pass on to our children. Hey, it didn't

start with me, but what was given or passed on to me, I am desperately

endeavoring by the grace and mercy of God to pass it on to my children and

to support them in passing it on to their children. It started with my maternal

grandmother and her young son, my dad, who was 14 yrs old at the time.

(1933) Our grandchildren are fifth generation. Our oldest grandson, and the

only one married, will possibly start another generation, our great-grand-

children. He is assisting the pastor here. His great grandfather, my dad, who

founded this assembly, along with his dear wife (my mother) would be so

proud to know the work they laboured for so faithfully, while raising eleven

children, the youngest born the same year they started the work in 1958, is

continuing on!

That's the way it works, from family to family, from generation to generation.

I can assure you, old Noah wasn't worried about having just family on board!

May these words encourage someone today to get started on YOUR part in

making sure the "LORD remains in YOUR generation! Get busy! You've got work

to do, but you won't have to go it all alone, for He'll go with you, He'll go

with you. You won't have to go it all alone. Someone's already been down the

road before you!!! His Name is JESUS!!

Blessings,

Falla39

beautiful post...I want my children to know the "Same God" I know...

Wonderful scriptures, sister. As David, I meditate on them day and night.

Like yours, my grandchildren are are 6th maternal generation Pentecost and 5th generation paternally. I've done all that I know how to do to instill in them the very thing that my mother and father pounded into me everyday. I still pour it into my grown and married children and pour it into the grandchildren too.

I am encouraged that my grandchildren will carry this blessed truth forward too. Two Sunday nights ago, my seven year old grandson was praying in the altar. It was something to behold as this little fellows traveled for way over an hour. It caught the attention of the Pastor and Bishop Kilgore too as they watched this little fellow travailing.

You are so wise to have poured what you have received into your own children. Rest assured your grandchildren will do the same.

God bless you, sister. Thanks again for allowing me to read those blessed words from the Word of God again.

Hear Hear Keith and I agree!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus is coming!!!! Dan a couple of days ago now Keith. I am encouraged I have helped them next will be long sleeves.:highfive

Nor in the sense that Christians in general understand the gospel.

So folks are saved as long as they walk in the light that the understand?