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deacon blues 04-05-2013 12:24 PM

March Job Numbers
 
This is Obama's economy. Only 95,000 jobs were created last month. About half of what is needed JUST TO BREAK EVEN based on people leaving the job sector and those entering it.

When will Obama have the responsibility of this economy hung about his neck? He had full control of the executive and legislative from 2009-2011. He has had control of the Oval Office and Senate from 2011 to the present. He is the president. He has the most influential and powerful position on earth. He promised low unemployment within his first term. It didn't happen. he said there were shovel ready jobs just waiting with the infusion of trillions of dollars in stimulus spending. Later he admitted that the jobs weren't so shovel ready and chuckled. There are less people working than have ever been in the past 35 years. There are more people on food stamps than in history. There are more people dependent on government assistance than in history. The national debt is at its highest in history. The deficit is at it's highest in history. The economy is barely growing. 3-4% growth is considered strong. It hasn't broken 2% in a long time. I don't think ever under BO, if I'm not mistaken.

Is there anybody here willing to say that this president is responsible at some point for the state of this economy. You know you would be tooting your horns if it was robust and breaking records for prosperity and wealth creation. Does he only get credit when it is good, but shoulders zero blame when it's bad?

Roagiesgal 04-05-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1240745)
This is Obama's economy. Only 95,000 jobs were created last month. About half of what is needed JUST TO BREAK EVEN based on people leaving the job sector and those entering it.

When will Obama have the responsibility of this economy hung about his neck? He had full control of the executive and legislative from 2009-2011. He has had control of the Oval Office and Senate from 2011 to the present. He is the president. He has the most influential and powerful position on earth. He promised low unemployment within his first term. It didn't happen. he said there were shovel ready jobs just waiting with the infusion of trillions of dollars in stimulus spending. Later he admitted that the jobs weren't so shovel ready and chuckled. There are less people working than have ever been in the past 35 years. There are more people on food stamps than in history. There are more people dependent on government assistance than in history. The national debt is at its highest in history. The deficit is at it's highest in history. The economy is barely growing. 3-4% growth is considered strong. It hasn't broken 2% in a long time. I don't think ever under BO, if I'm not mistaken.

Is there anybody here willing to say that this president is responsible at some point for the state of this economy. You know you would be tooting your horns if it was robust and breaking records for prosperity and wealth creation. Does he only get credit when it is good, but shoulders zero blame when it's bad?

I have no problem saying its his economy, and the numbers would be worse if they showed all the truth, the welfare rolls are though the roof, food stamps, and many are going on disability because their unemployment ran out...some have just plain fallen out of the picture...so many have just given up! Whenever they report how sales are up, I want to know how much of that is on credit, a loan...I bet little is cash sales. Our economy is much worse than most realize!

Dedicated Mind 04-05-2013 03:13 PM

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it would be obama's fault if the republicans wouldn't have forced sequester and would have passed the jobs act. obama wants to do more for the economy, republicans won't let him and will pay in 2014.

Originalist 04-05-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1240783)
it would be obama's fault if the republicans wouldn't have forced sequester and would have passed the jobs act. obama wants to do more for the economy, republicans won't let him and will pay in 2014.

You know very well that the sequester had nothing to do with this. I was wondering how long it would take you to tow the party line like a mindless lemming/parrot hybrid. There was no sequester last month or the month before, and things stunk then like now. But again, you know this.

Obama wants to do "more for the economy". You mean more to finish off what is left of it with more of his failed policies. Obama's policies are choking our economy.

Here it is. TAX HIKES are causing the economy to slow, not to mention the continuing fear businesses have of Obamacare..

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9330HH20130405

Jermyn Davidson 04-05-2013 11:10 PM

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The March Job Numbers are an indictment of the Executive and Legislative branches of government. Congress definitely has a part in this soup sandwich.

Still, the buck stops with the President of the United States, President Obama.

He and his team need to come up with a different approach.

I really wish the GOP-controlled House of Representatives would be more willing to work with the President. Their numb-skullery will only hurt the country and will do very little to win more support.

The last Presidential election should have told them this, but I guess my party is too blind to see and too deaf to hear.

deacon blues 04-06-2013 07:21 AM

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Work w Obama? With him it's all or nothing. You give him all he wants, you get nothing you want. He doesn't negotiate, he doesn't know how to finesse people, or how to handle opposition. Reagan did. Clinton did. The GOP Congress has learned if you give him what he wants, they will get nothing. Now they are jaded and realize past compromises turned against them. Last election should tell us one thing: don't run a liberal moderate for president.

Dedicated Mind. You are too predictable. Obama will never be responsible for anything wrong, only all that is right. Voters like you are why this nation is a mess. You have no objectivity. Blind.

Jermyn Davidson 04-06-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1240980)
Work w Obama? With him it's all or nothing. You give him all he wants, you get nothing you want. He doesn't negotiate, he doesn't know how to finesse people, or how to handle opposition. Reagan did. Clinton did. The GOP Congress has learned if you give him what he wants, they will get nothing. Now they are jaded and realize past compromises turned against them. Last election should tell us one thing: don't run a liberal moderate for president.

Dedicated Mind. You are too predictable. Obama will never be responsible for anything wrong, only all that is right. Voters like you are why this nation is a mess. You have no objectivity. Blind.

Do you have any examples of this?

Originalist 04-06-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1240944)
The March Job Numbers are an indictment of the Executive and Legislative branches of government. Congress definitely has a part in this soup sandwich.

Still, the buck stops with the President of the United States, President Obama.

He and his team need to come up with a different approach.

I really wish the GOP-controlled House of Representatives would be more willing to work with the President. Their numb-skullery will only hurt the country and will do very little to win more support.

The last Presidential election should have told them this, but I guess my party is too blind to see and too deaf to hear.

I don't want the Congress to cooperate with Obama in destroying the country.

Jermyn Davidson 04-07-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1241012)
I don't want the Congress to cooperate with Obama in destroying the country.

This would be a smart statement except the PRESIDENT OBAMA doesn't want to DESTROY America!

odooley6985 04-08-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1240802)
You know very well that the sequester had nothing to do with this. I was wondering how long it would take you to tow the party line like a mindless lemming/parrot hybrid. There was no sequester last month or the month before, and things stunk then like now. But again, you know this.

Obama wants to do "more for the economy". You mean more to finish off what is left of it with more of his failed policies. Obama's policies are choking our economy.

Here it is. TAX HIKES are causing the economy to slow, not to mention the continuing fear businesses have of Obamacare..

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9330HH20130405

Most major corporations pay little to nothing. Obama tax hikes are only hitting 3% of small businesses if that. So please explain how letting the taxes go back to pre Bush era rates are hurting us? The GOPs attitude of lets not do anything to help the economy to make Obama and Dems look bad is hurting the economy. We have had the rich pay far more taxes in our history with far less unemployment.

deacon blues 04-08-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1241418)
Most major corporations pay little to nothing. Obama tax hikes are only hitting 3% of small businesses if that. So please explain how letting the taxes go back to pre Bush era rates are hurting us? The GOPs attitude of lets not do anything to help the economy to make Obama and Dems look bad is hurting the economy. We have had the rich pay far more taxes in our history with far less unemployment.

Why don't you tell us what has this president done to help this economy? Where are the jobs he promised with the stimulus? Where are the jobs he promised would be here in his first term? How has all this spending and printing money made things better? Where's the plan to get us out of debt? Wheres the plan for a balanced budget? Y'all complain about the GOP led Congress. They aren't the POTUS. Where are the phone calls like Reagan used to make, like Clinton used to make? Where is the invitation for the GOP leaders to come up to the WH and negotiate a deal? You think taxes are going to solve this nations problems? Can you cite anywhere in our history that raising taxes made this country more robust, more productive, more prosperous? This president and you all who are his biggest fans can do nothing but make excuses, pass the buck, point the finger and act like the GOP Congress holds all the cards. They are only 1/3 of the equation. They are in the minority. Yet somehow they hold this poor president hostage. There's nothing he can do. He's only the President. The big bad congressman don't like him and won't cooperate with him. No, he's a terrible leader. Nice guy, but a terrible leader. And his ideologies are nothing new. They've been around for about 100 or so years and history has proven they are a colossal failure. But he plows forward to keep socialism alive.

FlamingZword 04-08-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1241295)
This would be a smart statement except the PRESIDENT OBAMA doesn't want to DESTROY America!

how do you know he doesn't want to destroy America?
Do you read minds?

I think he does want to destroy America from within.
All his actions have harmed America.
He is the perfect trojan horse candidate.

We need to stop listening to his sweet rethoric and see his actions, and his actions do say he wants to make America into a Third World nation.

RandyWayne 04-09-2013 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1241295)
This would be a smart statement except the PRESIDENT OBAMA doesn't want to DESTROY America!

He HATES America! He is the most treasones person to live this past 50 years!

Originalist 04-09-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1241418)
Most major corporations pay little to nothing. Obama tax hikes are only hitting 3% of small businesses if that. So please explain how letting the taxes go back to pre Bush era rates are hurting us? The GOPs attitude of lets not do anything to help the economy to make Obama and Dems look bad is hurting the economy. We have had the rich pay far more taxes in our history with far less unemployment.

Those 3% of small businesses he's raising taxes on create 50% of the new jobs in this country. I bet you did not know that.

odooley6985 04-09-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1241700)
Those 3% of small businesses he's raising taxes on create 50% of the new jobs in this country. I bet you did not know that.

HUH? Proof? That doesnt makes sense to me.

Originalist 04-09-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1241712)
HUH? Proof? That doesnt makes sense to me.

Romney brought this up in the first debate and it passed the fact checkers right afterward.


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