Acts 2:38 Three-Step Salvation Book Coming!
 

The Way More Perfectly

By yours truly.

Keep an eye out for it!

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Good!

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:happydance

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WHAT!?! This is a horrible tease. I WANT IT NOW!!!!

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Are we talking Soon? Soon in the biblical sense? 2000 years from now soon? End of time is going to happen before this book comes out soon? :heeheehee

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Soon in the actual sense, and not dispensationalist. lol

In fact it's almost done except for a little more writing and an edit.

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Just added a passage in the book speaking about how the Apostles knew the Samaritans did not receive the Spirit, which would not have been possible if tongues were not the evidence of Spirit baptism.

Woohoo! Got that thought form debating here on the forum!

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Will you deal with the accusation that 3step salvation is dependent on John 3?

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Please clarify. And please let me know of anything else that should be covered.

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This generation shall not pass...

Lol

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There be some..standing..here, which shall not taste of death, ...

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The argument goes that you can not teach a doctrine that hinges on one scripture. All scriptures hinge on John 3 and the water and spirit doctrine.

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The only reason I brought up John 3 is this is one of many scriptures.

I have caught myself, church members, pastors and Pentecostal writers depending on John 3 for the magic bullet to win every debate. So if someone disagrees on John 3 the argument is over. The other person won't believe anything you say because a person puts most of his argument on one scripture.

I was only asking because I feel this is the week link in the 3 stepper argument. Just like using one scripture as a hinge for a 1 step argument.

I hope I explained enough. Words are SO HARD to use!!!

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What does a one stepper believe about John 3?

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Check out this post. It offers 4 or 5 different interpretations. I believe being born again is the baptismS but if I was a one-stepper, I would go with water being a metaphor for Spirit and that it is used for emphasis. The interpretation using a contrast with the natural birth with the "water and the spirit" isn't convincing to me.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...53&postcount=5

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Not really catching your drift, disciple4life. lol

I get the idea of not forming a doctrine form one verse. But not sure of the connection and which side of the point deals with John 3.

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The use "water" in 1 John 5:6 interests me. "Not water ONLY, but blood...(leading one to think he wS making a point that some saw "water only")
I've read referring to when water and blood came out when the spear pierced him, compared to Moses drawn out of the water, baptism , rivers of living water=spirit, and no telling what else...

I'd like to know for certain

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Most 3 steppers (including myself) have to use John 3 at some point to make their argument. If this does not apply to your argument then I apologize for the confusion.

Most Christians (one steppers) base everything on John 3:16. This is the verse they go to explain salvation.

My point I was trying to make is that you need a well rounded argument with several verses that can help establish your argument. Regardless of your final conclusion.

Mike, I really didn't think you were going to have a problem coming up with a good argument. I was just being overly cautious on what approach you were taking. I expect you will use Old Testament to shine light on the New Testament plan of Salvation. :happydance

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I spent most of my time showing that Jesus authorized everything the Apostles would teach in John 17:20, and then how over and over the apostles wrote things like OUR doctrine and truth you have heard from US.

With John I got a precious revelation about John 3:16. But there is also much OT showing the plan!

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Consider this,

Elder P. Price said he once found a bible study-track that said, "3 easy steps to salvation" he laughed, threw it away, and said," There are more than three steps to salvation and none of em are easy!"

LOL
Where's the Book ?

Yours,
J.A. Perez

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Thought about your book when I read this passage in Thessalonians.

I Thessalonians 1:4-5 "Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God. For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake." (KJV)


I Thessalonians 1:4-5 "We know, dear brothers and sisters, that God loves you and has chosen you to be his own people. For when we brought you the Good News, it was not only with words but also with power, for the Holy Spirit gave you full assurance that what we said was true." (NLT)

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I have listened and considered the positions of the one-steppers and of course growing up, hearing the three-step position (although I never knew it had such a name then, lol).

The bottom line thing that has convinced me to stand solidly in the "three-stepper" position is this.

Regardless of the varying interpretations of different scriptures on the matter, when you read the book of Acts, and see the actual accounts of how those were sinners became saved, you see their doctrine in action.

The doctrine in action was repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus, and to receive the spirit of God, which was "HEARD" in Acts 10:42-48.

In my opinion... again you cannot deny the three step experience that took place in Acts 10. The doctrine the apostles taught was put into action throughout the book of Acts. That, to me, signed and sealed the deal, regardless of how people want to argue about the various writings on the subjects throughout the NT.

What did the apostles think was necessary for salvation? How did they put it into action? If it was necessary for them then, then it should be necessary today too.

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Awesome!! :thumbsup:thumbsup

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Soon I will be coming out with my 7 steps to salvation book.

anyone coming up with a 12 steps to salvation book? :D

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My book on salvation is coming out soon. Mine includes 24 steps! The same numbers of elders in Heaven.

King James Bible
And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

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I never heard it called three step until this forum. lol. I certainly don't call it that. I call it Acts 2:38 salvation.

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:nod :thumbsup

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I wonder if it is a coined phrase that someone came up with here on this forum? I've mentioned the one-step and three-step to other people who have studied a lot, and they have never heard of it either. Makes me wonder if it is an AFF thing?

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Seems like you could write a book about anything, and people would probably buy it, ... especially if you say that those who read it will receive a crown of gold... :heeheehee

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Goes back to FCF at least. I too never heard of it until FCF.

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What is the biggest scriptural support that one will be lost without speaking in tongues?

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Ha! Ha!! HAA!!! SO TRUE!!!:highfive

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A person IS lost without the Holy Ghost. Tongues is not a "requirement" it is the INITIAL evidence.

What is ANY scriptural proof or evidence that anyone from Pentecost on received the Spirit of God and did NOT speak in other tongues?

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That sounds as though we preach speak in tongues or be lost, when in reality we preach obey Acts 2:38 or be lost. Tongues is only evidence, not the target.

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Exactly, and this is what one-steppers seem to always make a mistake with.

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I think maybe Thomas Fudge used the term in his book against the UPC called, Christianity Without the Cross. Not sure, though.

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http://www.cpmworship.org/cpmworship...ation_question

I think 4 step is closer.
1st one must believe. Peters message initially got those on the day of Pentecost was to believe, then he ministered Acts 2:38.

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If it's required to have the holy ghost to be saved and tongues is the only initial evidence then why can't it be said tongues is required?