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Are Backsliders Required to be Re-baptized?
Hello, AFF -
I've been out of pocket during the last few weeks and I've had this question daily on my mind. Now, I learned all the scriptures that support our doctrine; however, I've had trouble discounting the need of being baptized again for the remission of sins after walking away from God and being involved with horrible sin. I backslid and came back to our merciful Savior, but I've been troubled in my spirit about the need to wash all those sins under the blood through the act of baptism. Has anyone heard of this being practice in our churches? Any scripturally based answers that you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, chosenbyone |
I do not have any scripture to offer for this answer. :)
If baptism is for the remission of sins, then NO. Baptism is not necessary the second time around. Sins can be remitted only once. Or that is what they will tell you. *shrugs* If baptism is because of the remission of sins, yes, you CAN be baptized again. It is a public confession that you have placed your faith in Christ. Some believe you can be baptized again to clear your conscience. Reference: The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: |
I have no real answer.
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If it was just for public confession of a person's faith then in my opinion would be there wouldn't be a need to be baptized again. The reason for this belief was I should already be a walking public confession everyday with my words, deeds and most importantly His grace. Still on the fence with this dilemma...I've spent time today wrapping up some personal legal matters, estate, so that no one would have to deal with such matters after I pass away (if that is God's will). This is an urgent personel matter for me...anymore insight friends? |
Several years ago I wanted to be re-baptized. I was not. For me it was an issue of the conscience. I would have "felt" better about starting over.
If it is for conscience sake, I would tell you to go ahead with it. If it will give you more peace, it is a good thing. :) I have been wondering where you have been. |
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It has never been something that has robbed me of any peace; however, it has been a subject that I just can't seem to get out of my head. If baptism was an act of obedience to God's word and I felt that God wanted me to be baptized again, who would baptize me? As far a I can gather, my church doesn't do any re-baptizing for backsliders. I just would like to have this matter resolved once and for all... |
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Perhaps, at this stage of my life, I just wanted to put these questions to rest. Thanks for the offer, Berk....you're a good guy. |
Chosen, if you want to get rebaptized then take it to your pastor and discuss it with him. Tell him how you feel and hopefully he will understand and rebaptize you. I've heard of people doing this.
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Far from good... striving unto perfection...
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I haven't been able to attend church in several weeks, but I did email my pastor and I've been waiting for a reply. I have heard from other members that the leadership in general doesn't support re-baptizing. Regardless, of whatever life throws our way...God is still good. chosenbyone. |
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There is no scripture for or against re-baptism, but I will tell you of many experiences that I have had, especially within the scope of my ministry. Many of us were raised in the church and just took it as the right thing to do when we got baptized from 5-12 years of age. Many of us have chosen, as adults, to be re-baptized full well understanding our sin nature and knowing that God is the only one who can wash us white as snow. As for you; no person can make that decision for you. The first time you asked for forgiveness - God was there. He knows our frame and what we are made of. As far as God is concerned...your sins are gone, but if being re-baptized today knowing and understanding what a sacrifice Jesus made when he took all of our sins on to himself...then I'd say...go for it. God won't feel any different about you but you may feel different about yourself. If you choose this route...let me know, and I will come. Love & Blessings, Rhoni |
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We often rebaptize people who have been away from the Lord. I think it is just signifying a fresh start and it's a public declaration of such. I don't think they "have" to be baptized again, according to Scripture, but it sure doesn't hurt them! The Bible does talk somewhere about doing your first works over.:ernie
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As a pastor, and being part of the UPC for 20yrs, (I have been out of the UPC for over 10yrs) I used to hold strongly to the "baptism ONLY once" idea. It was more of a sectarian stance that I held than anything else. However, having been a Sr. pastor for almost 25 yrs, I have dealt with many different kinds of situations in people's lives. I have -re-baptized many folks. I don't preach it as a doctrine, but to the folks I have re-baptized, it has really meant something to them. For me, that is what is more important than anything. There is no scripture to support withholding re-baptism. However, the Jewish practice of Mikveh, was a ritual cleansing that was performed many times throughout the life of the observant Jew. If it means that much to you, and your pastor won't do it, then I would find someone who would. Remember, this is between you and the Lord. I don't counsel folks to go against their pastor, but this is not something that is contrary to scripture. |
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I was rebaptized a while back. It did not help. The problem was not even with conscience, but with the condition of the mind. If a backslider somes back, and repents, they turn their mind back to where it should be. Look at Revelation, at the words of our Lord to the various churches. He told them to repent and turn. He did not say they needed to be rebaptized, though the reference to returning back to your first works can be interpreted as such by some.
Personally, rebaptism is for conscience sake. The blood, once applied, is there. We must repent and turn back. He died once for our sins, and His blood cleanses us from sin. If we confess our sins, church, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. For conscience sake, I will not go against. Mandating such is unscripturally based. |
If someone feels to then maybe so...but in general I would say no. But I have seen my pastor rebaptize people IF they felt to be. I think if for some reason a person is not satisfied maybe they should do so...Many years ao when my mother came to the Lord she was baptized in a certain church and when she came on into more truth she felt to rebaptize. She felt that the preacher that baptized her was wrong...so there are many reasons to consider and blessed be the wise pastor that guides...
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"Can a man enter his mother's womb and be born" Again, again, again, and again....its foolish. God's grace and mercy is endless, it is sufficient to cover ALL of my sins. Just return to the cross in prayer, that is enough.
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Are Backsliders Required to be Re-baptized?
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many times! I would like to renew our marriage vows at our 50th anniv. In a few days we will have our 48th. I married my husband as a young person and I don't remember what all the vows were. I probably didn't care. All I wanted to do was to spend my life with him. Basically I was a "child". NOW I know as an adult that I still want to spend the reminder of my life with him. If we renew our vows, I will find out what I am vowing and do my very best to do them. Then there is this question of being re-baptized. My grandmother and her son, my dad, frowned somewhat upon being re-baptized as they saw no scripture for doing so. However, Grandma was an adult and her son, my dad was a young fourteen yr. old boy when they heard the apostolic truth from God's Word. They wore out several Bibles the next few years after they believed, were baptized in Jesus Name, and received the Holy Ghost, speaking with tongues. They were very devout in their continual searching of the scriptures. I seriously doubt they ever thought of re-baptism due to their own devouted life to God and His Word. I was a young girl when I was baptized and didn't receive the Holy Ghost until I was eighteen. My two younger siblings were getting baptized and I am sure I felt a measure of wanting to also since, and while they were being baptized. In later years I have felt that because I was a "child" when I was baptized, I would be willing to let Jesus know that even though I "put Him Christ" as a child, I would love for Him know that as a mature adult, I would be willing to take the name of JESUS with me again. Some might not want to marry the same man or take a man's name again but I can only speak for myself. Instead of re-marrying or re-baptism, it would simply be, being RE-NEWED in both cases!! If we ask Him to, He will lead us in this question and will settle it in our minds. We sometimes need to be re-newed in the spirit of our minds. Blessings, Falla39 |
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I orginally came to an Apostolic church at the age of 18, attended maybe 3 services and decided to be baptized. I maybe attended 1 more service after I was baptized, and then did not attend church at all. I never received the Holy Ghost, and did not give my life to God. 6 Years later I started attending again, and gave my life to God. I eventually received the Holy Ghost. For almost 5 years, I struggled with feeling that I wanted to be baptized again. But the various Pastors I discussed it with, always said that it was not required. Eventually I just decided that I WANTED to do it again, regardless of it not being necessary. I felt much better once I did. There had always been this tiny uncomfortable feeling in the back of my mind. |
Was the prodigal son reborn when he returned home? No
He was just a person that realized he had made a mistake. He repented of that mistake and the father put the ring and robe on him that the son had squandered. There is no need to be re-baptised. One is only getting wet. When one is born again they are a son no matter what they do. If they live a life separated from God they are still a son, but a son that is lost. You can only receive the Holy Ghost one time. There is no such thing as praying through as taught in the UPCI. |
Do what will give you peace.
It is not necessary. But as MOW said there is no Bible for, nor against being bapized again. |
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Many of you have shared similar thoughts and beliefs that I have held regarding homosexuality, which was what the Bible referred to as an abomination. I not only left the anointing of God, but was involved in unspeakable behavior against the very nature of Jesus. I was raised and attended both UPC and Church of God (Cleveland), but mostly the COG. I had friends that lived in Houston and they invited me to hear Richard Heard speak at Christian Tabernacle back in 1981. I had already received the Holy Ghost at age 11, but even at that young age I longed for something that I wasn't seeing or feeling in the COG. That night, I knelt at the alter where a brother read Acts 2:38 and explained to me the plan of salvation. I obeyed and was baptized in Jesus Name at the age of 15. My grandfather found out about my baptism and I was banned from being around "Jesus Only" people until his passing in 1989. At that time, I was a seaman in the Navy and I found New Life Tabernacle in Napa, CA. That was where I received the revelation of the Oneness of our God and all of His wonderfulness. Only once did I question the need to be baptized after I received the revelation and Bro. Paul Price assured me that I was born again. After the shame I brought to Christ, my family, friends and myself, I found an alter of forgiveness and the love of our Father. Now, I am dying. Unless, a miracle happens this year, I will go and receive my reward. I know that Jesus loves me as well as I love him with all my heart, but I even dream that I must be buried again in His name. Believe me, I've written this urge up as everything from some deep seeded guilt to medications to the actual need of those horrible sins to be once and for all remitted. I now have been assigned a caretaker after my hospital stay and he has seen the anguish that this has caused in my life and he doesn't even know the truth...yet... As of tonight, I still haven't heard from my pastor. If by chance that he would not baptize me is there any ministers in the Houston area that would be willing to baptize me even if you don't feel that it would be necessary? If anything else, the peace of mind that obeying what I feel in my soul would be worth everything I own. I couldn't find where there would be a need in the scripture either for re-baptism though I have spent countless hours the last month researching. One scripture that brought more questions to me was when I read Hebrews Ch 10:26..."For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins". Too may questions and not enough time. If there would be no more sacrifice for sins for someone who knew truth and walked away from God then why did God lead me back to Him? |
Chosen--
You are a true example of the grace of God. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm sure there are ministers in the Houston area who would baptize you, if that's what you desire. Jabo Green's staff would, I think. Or Richard Heard's staff. Maybe you don't want someone outside of UPC though; if so, I don't know the ones in UPC anymore. I'll be praying for you! |
Chosen, if you can't find anyone, I would be happy to fly there and re-baptize you at my expense! Seriously!!
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I will pray if Bro. Green or Bro. Heard would be where I should go. I would like for my pastor to be the one to baptize me, but at this point if there were another Apostolic minister that would do this for me, I would humbly accept. I'm going to have to log off in a minute, but I will look forward to reading your replies in the morning. |
Early in my Christian life, I received teaching on a couple verses in the epistle of 1 John which apply to a Christian who sins. "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Those are verses 8 and 9 in the first chapter of that epistle. I had a problem because I didn't "feel" forgiven when I confessed any failure and/or sin. I was told that we walk by faith and not by feeling. God plainly promised in these verses that if we confess (admit) our sins then He would forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. This promise is based on God's faithfulness. If we believe what He said, then once we admit our failure to Him, He not only forgives but He also cleanses us from it.
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Ephesians 4:5
One Lord, one faith, one baptism, |
I agree that it isn't necessary for salvation, but if the guy is dying and feels like this is something God has wanted for him, then by all means, he needs to do it. I can tell you, if I were in his position, I would move heaven and earth to get to a place where they would baptize me if I felt it as strongly as he obviously does.
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