How many people will be in Heaven?
 

Over in Deep Waters, there's a thread about birth control. It was explained that some types of birth control often result in the death of an embryo, the "pill" and IUDs being examples.

Also, many embryos simply fail to implant in the uterine wall, with no help from birth control. And, there are many miscarriages at various stages of pregnancy, not to mention abortions.

If life begins at conception, all these embryos had spirits that will have eternal life. Is that correct? And every one of them will be in Heaven, correct?

If this is correct so far, then I suspect that the vast majority of Heaven's population will consist of these souls that never saw life on Earth outside of the womb, and many babies and small children who died. Depending on how many adults do wind up there, the percentage could be upwards of 99.9%, maybe more! And the numbers could be in the hundreds of billions. Most of them will not see their parents there, of course, and most of the adults that get there by their salvation (Acts 2:38!) will find a lot more of their own children there than they may have expected!

OK, so, discuss! Will there be many billions of people in Heaven, or am I all wet?

That's a good point, and since they will all make it to Heaven and only .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the population that has had time to sin will make it, that supports your theory. :)

All trapped inside a cubical?

Us four... and no more...

:party <~ (the fourth one is out buying the party streamers)

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The number is uncountable according to John and as numerous as the starts of the heaven according to God speaking to Abraham

Here is a towel...sorry dude, couldn't resist!

So I was right (more or less)!

And all wet!

Hmmmm..how many people in heaven.......this is easy!!

All I need to find out is the total size of Wholehearted's immediate family and I've got the number!!!

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hmmmmm.... here's some food for thought....

I'm willing to round that total down a few billion to adjust for the more accurate "Creation" beginning; how about 100,000,000,000.

After 1999, I suppose that you could safely re-adjust your estimate to 50,000,000+ abortions in the US adding on the last 8 years of so. One has to also consider that these stats only reflect the US, with many more millions of abortions from the remaining countries of the world.

A comparison to United States casualties of war:
Another comparison to global casualties of war:
If I had to personally speculate, I'd say less than 2 or 3 billion souls.... depending on how much longer till the Lord comes again....

I confess that the first speculation that came to my mind was under 1 billion souls; I hope that the above speculation is closer to reality.

That was low, low low.... :)

Yes!

Is that gonna be a party or what???

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:party:party:party:happydance:party
:bliss:party:party:party:party
:party:woot:party:party:party

God told Abraham that in his seed all the nations of the earth would be blessed, and that Abraham's seed would be as the "stars in the heavens. "

With the above in mind lets read Isaiah 40:26:

"Lift up your eyes on high
And see who has created these stars,
The One who leads forth their host by number.
He calls them all by name;
Because of the greatness of His might and the strength of His power.
Not one of them is missing."


Let him that has ears hear what the Spirit declared thru the prophet Isaiah!!!!

God will not lose one of His creation, He will eventually bring each one into right relationship with Himself. Then every knee will bow every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father, and then the whole earth will be filled with His glory, then none will say "know the Lord" for "ALL WILL KNOW HIM, FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST." Then the glory of the Lord will cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.

How many oneness Apostolics are there?

11 i have not picked the other 10

All, of them! According to Isaiah 40.26, not one is missing, by the greatest of His might and the strength of His power.

I haven't received notice from you of my being picked.:nah

Much less than will be in hell. There will even be some trying to get in and for some reason won't be able to.

Many things in the Bible are allegorical.

Should we be able to ascertain the actual number of people who have lived from Adam until now would we not be able to measure that number... and that is counting lost and saved.

What about the embryos that never made it full term? See post #1. For every baby that's born and grows up (most of whom go to hell, presumably), there's probably a dozen or more embryos that are never implanted in the womb, or are aborted before birth.

Doesn't life begin at conception?

Are you worried there won't be enough room? :killinme

No, the more the merrier! :yahoo

Just thought it was interesting, that's all. Will the ones saved by Acts 2:38 (a very small percentage of all the humans that have lived so far!) be far outnumbered by babies (mostly unborn, some that died young)? Come on you guys, you do believe that life begins at conception, don't you? And every human life is (or has) a spirit, right?

BTW, is there Scriptural support for the "age of accountability" doctrine? (Is that what you guys call it, where a child that dies before understanding the choices will go to Heaven?)

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ALL people will be in Heaven.

Only some will have opportunity to STAY!

Huh? Oh, I guess you mean the judgement? And some will be allowed to stay, and the rest will be sent to hell?

OK, my theory is that the number who stay will vastly outnumber those who don't. I.e., the number of unborn babies who die and children who die before reaching the age of reason will be way more than the ones who grew up and didn't get saved (regardless of how easy or hard that is) and therefore end up in hell.

I did a calculation on this some time back. I will look up my numbers. It will be a large number of people.

Since there have been something like 97 Billion estimated people already having lived in the past 6,600 years.

Here was the numbers I came up with...

How many of us total humans will end up in heaven?

Here are some stats on our existance:

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html

From: 01/01/01
732,774 days can be converted to one of these units:
• 63,311,673,600 seconds
• 1,055,194,560 minutes
• 17,586,576 hours
• 104,682 weeks
http://www.convertit.com/Go/ConvertI..._Diff_Calc.ASP

Calculated back to 4400 BC: Close to the beginning of time.
2339838 days, or
334262 weeks and 4 days

http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ramsey/People.html

If one divides by 25 as an estimate of average lifespan, one estimates that 96,100,000,000 people have lived on the earth.

What if?

1% make it..... almost equal to 1 Billion who would be saved or 1000 Million.

I think folks will be shocked at the crowd on the other side...

Also keep in mind that if oneness salvation requirements are taken into account that number would be much less than 1%.

How many people will be in Heaven?


Not enough I am afraid!

At what point they have spirits (the breath of life, making them a living soul) is not clear. However, it is wrong to presume that they will be in Heaven. Why? Because they are conceived with a sin nature and have Adam's sin imputed to them.

There will indeed be a great multitude in Heaven but it will only consist of those who are washed in the blood of the Lamb.

It is sad that the majority of those that will be in heaven could be those who got exempt from facing the real world and the risks of living in the context that God set in place. Sad that most Christians have bought into the concept of a God that has given up on His creation.

Can He not save the majority, or has He chosen to torture the vast majority in place of actually allowing the work of Jesus to actually accomplish its purpose? Are we wrong to oppose abortion?:Nhl_check

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no answers????

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There will be plenty of room for everyone.

The New Jerusalem is coming down to the Earth, it has 3.8 billion cubic miles of space.

Then there's the Earth which will have no sea, making four times more space here available. You will be able to come and go back and forth from New Jerusalem as well as the entire universe.

Then there's all the rest of the universe, which is still expanding at 186,283 miles per second. The Bible refers to it as "world with out end".

Oh! There's plenty of room. Would God make all that space just to be empty?
Jeremiah said He made it to be inhabited.

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I just had this same thought, if Adam became a living soul when God breathed into him, and believers received the spirit AFTER 'Jesus breathed on them and said recieve ye the Holy Ghost", then does a baby only became a living soul at the point of his first breath?

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Any thoughts on this?

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There will be ZERO people in Heaven.

"Flesh and blood shall not inherit the Kingdom...."

Am I taking this scripture out of context?