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Chewy 07-14-2007 03:30 PM

What Language in Heaven
 
There are words and phrases in the latin-based languages that are so much more beautiful and descriptive.

I was thinking, what language are we going to use in Heaven? Will those poor hispanics be required to walk the streets of gold and gather around the throne with those little interpretation headphones in their ears?

Maybe the white pastors who insist that Spanish speaking people to wear those in their services opposed to giving them a church of their own or who disregarded them will be punished and have english (KJV-english would even be better) translated into headphones of their own in heaven throughout all eternity. :killinme

:slaphappy

Praxeas 07-14-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 184964)
There are words and phrases in the latin-based languages that are so much more beautiful and descriptive.

I was thinking, what language are we going to use in Heaven? Will those poor hispanics be required to walk the streets of gold and gather around the throne with those little interpretation headphones in their ears?

Maybe the white pastors who insist that Spanish speaking people to wear those in their services opposed to giving them a church of their own or who disregarded them will be punished and have english (KJV-english would even be better) translated into headphones of their own in heaven throughout all eternity. :killinme

:slaphappy

Latin is so much more beautiful and descriptive than what? What about Greek?

BTW what makes you think we will need a vocalized language?

RandyWayne 07-14-2007 03:49 PM

I personally think it will be the binary language of moisture vaporatores.

Chewy 07-14-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 184970)
Latin is so much more beautiful and descriptive than what? What about Greek?

BTW what makes you think we will need a vocalized language?

More beautiful than english.

We have boxes full of threads and posts digesting the meaning of words like of, it, at, about, when, in, for and so on.

Those of you who are of European discent...sheesh!
:D

Praxeas 07-14-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 184997)
More beautiful than english.

We have boxes full of threads and posts digesting the meaning of words like of, it, at, about, when, in, for and so on.

Those of you who are of European discent...sheesh!
:D

Latin was a European language, sheeeeesh! Are you pushing for Vatican II or something? :choir

Praxeas 07-14-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 184978)
I personally think it will be the binary language of moisture vaporatores.


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If RandyWayne<OneSmartOne
Then DoLoopEternal ('Go to hell')*666}

Chewy 07-14-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 185001)
Latin was a European language, sheeeeesh! Are you pushing for Vatican II or something? :choir

I am talking about the same concept as a missionary trying to influence the natives to wear white shirts with ties and slacks, and the women in the long dress when it is not customary to their culture to do so.

It is a badge of success for a missionary to have photos of native churches and bible schools with all the people looking like westernized Apostolics. Actually it makes me kind of sick to see all that.

Praxeas 07-14-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 185026)
I am talking about the same concept as a missionary trying to influence the natives to wear white shirts with ties and slacks, and the women in the long dress when it is not customary to their culture to do so.

It is a badge of success for a missionary to have photos of native churches and bible schools with all the people looking like westernized Apostolics. Actually it makes me kind of sick to see all that.

Yeah really...too bad they didn't leave em all nekkid all those years ago. Those Island vacations might seem more entertaining to the single men...go figure. Well in case nobody missed the sarcasm, I find nothing wrong with some changes to culture when culture is contrary to scriptures.

What would you prefer they be wearing?

Though I am not sure how your point is relevant to what I said.

Sheltiedad 07-14-2007 04:36 PM

It will obviously be Elizabethian English because that is what it sounds like during Tongues and Interpretation. :D :D

RandyWayne 07-14-2007 04:42 PM

Who knows....
It COULD be a language of nothing but metaphor's.

"Darmok and Tonaga at the ocean....."

Sheltiedad 07-14-2007 04:45 PM

Or possibly a language of only one syllable words...

SDG 07-14-2007 04:50 PM

Elven?

RandyWayne 07-14-2007 04:51 PM

Well, we know it won't be the language of Mordor -which I will not utter here!

Arphaxad 07-14-2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 185059)
Who knows....
It COULD be a language of nothing but metaphor's.

"Darmok and Tonaga at the ocean....."

or maybe we will have built in universal language translators so no matter what anyone says (even animals), we can understand them.




ARPH :doggyrun

SDG 07-14-2007 04:55 PM

Well if it's Hebrew be prepared to be buried in clam.

deseret 07-14-2007 05:36 PM

I am not concerned with what we will speak in the celestial heaven. Though, I would be pleased if we would speak the language of the Jaredites.
Here on earth, I would that everyone would speak English and write in the Deseret alphabet.

rgcraig 07-14-2007 06:11 PM

Well, since sometimes it's said someone is speaking a heavenly language when speaking in tongues, perhaps that'll be it - - whatever that is.

deseret 07-14-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 185106)
Well, since sometimes it's said someone is speaking a heavenly language when speaking in tongues, perhaps that'll be it - - whatever that is.

That's plausible. It all sounds the same.

Sister Alvear 07-14-2007 07:15 PM

new heaven and a new earth maybe a brand new language?

HeavenlyOne 07-14-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 185042)
Yeah really...too bad they didn't leave em all nekkid all those years ago. Those Island vacations might seem more entertaining to the single men...go figure. Well in case nobody missed the sarcasm, I find nothing wrong with some changes to culture when culture is contrary to scriptures.
What would you prefer they be wearing?

Though I am not sure how your point is relevant to what I said.

Are you still greeting your brethren with a holy kiss?

Seems like you changed scripture because culture changed. ;)

RevDWW 07-14-2007 07:56 PM

Make plans now to attend...........:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

rgcraig 07-14-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 185133)
Are you still greeting your brethren with a holy kiss?
Seems like you changed scripture because culture changed. ;)

Naw, just the sisters!

Digging4Truth 07-14-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 184964)
There are words and phrases in the latin-based languages that are so much more beautiful and descriptive.

I was thinking, what language are we going to use in Heaven? Will those poor hispanics be required to walk the streets of gold and gather around the throne with those little interpretation headphones in their ears?

Maybe the white pastors who insist that Spanish speaking people to wear those in their services opposed to giving them a church of their own or who disregarded them will be punished and have english (KJV-english would even be better) translated into headphones of their own in heaven throughout all eternity. :killinme

:slaphappy


Maybe they will have to press 1 for Espanol. :slaphappy:slaphappy:slaphappy

RevDWW 07-14-2007 08:01 PM

If on the day of Pentecost all those looking on heard them speak in their own languages.....well I'm sure God's got the communication thing well thought out.....:killinme

HeavenlyOne 07-14-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 185154)
Naw, just the sisters!

That's not Biblical!! LOL!

deseret 07-14-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 185159)
If on the day of Pentecost all those looking on heard them speak in their own languages.....well I'm sure God's got the communication thing well thought out.....:killinme

What of todays tongues? I am not making any judgments, but I have noticed that it will not matter what congregation that I visit, if it be local or across the nation, the majority of tongues will have many of the same syllables with very little variance. The order of the syllables may change. Most people will have a few syllables that differ from the rest of the congregation. Other than that, they sound the same.

RevDWW 07-14-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by deseret (Post 185165)
What of todays tongues? I am not making any judgments, but I have noticed that it will not matter what congregation that I visit, if it be local or across the nation, the majority of tongues will have many of the same syllables with very little variance. The order of the syllables may change. Most people will have a few syllables that differ from the rest of the congregation. Other than that, they sound the same.

If they are for real, then the Holy Ghost is giving the utterance and who are we to question what the Holy Ghost has to say through us...........
:winkgrin

HeavenlyOne 07-14-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by deseret (Post 185165)
What of todays tongues? I am not making any judgments, but I have noticed that it will not matter what congregation that I visit, if it be local or across the nation, the majority of tongues will have many of the same syllables with very little variance. The order of the syllables may change. Most people will have a few syllables that differ from the rest of the congregation. Other than that, they sound the same.

I believe that every preacher and pastor must say 'stealinmyhonda' at some point in every service.

And why do most tongues I've ever heard end in 'uh' at the end of the sentence, as it seems?

deseret 07-14-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 185168)
If they are for real, then the Holy Ghost is giving the utterance and who are we to question what the Holy Ghost has to say through us...........
:winkgrin

Take not where I stated that "I am not judging". :)

deseret 07-14-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 185169)
I believe that every preacher and pastor must say 'stealinmyhonda' at some point in every service.

And why do most tongues I've ever heard end in 'uh' at the end of the sentence, as it seems?

I am of the opinion that these are valid things to question. I have been guilty as well. Inner reflection has brought these questions to the surface. If I have offended anyone, I am sorry. :)

HeavenlyOne 07-14-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by deseret (Post 185175)
I am of the opinion that these are valid things to question. I have been guilty as well. Inner reflection has brought these questions to the surface. If I have offended anyone, I am sorry. :)

And I believe your questions and concerns to be valid, and I've thought of them as well. And you've certainly not offended me.

Monkeyman 07-14-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 185055)
It will obviously be Elizabethian English because that is what it sounds like during Tongues and Interpretation. :D :D

Thus sayeth me, thou hast madeth me laugheth mine hind quarters offeth!!!!!:slaphappy

pelathais 07-14-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 184964)
There are words and phrases in the latin-based languages that are so much more beautiful and descriptive.

I was thinking, what language are we going to use in Heaven? Will those poor hispanics be required to walk the streets of gold and gather around the throne with those little interpretation headphones in their ears?

Maybe the white pastors who insist that Spanish speaking people to wear those in their services opposed to giving them a church of their own or who disregarded them will be punished and have english (KJV-english would even be better) translated into headphones of their own in heaven throughout all eternity. :killinme

:slaphappy

Personally, I think we'll all have huge throbbing foreheads and communicate telepathically like the mutants in Beneath the Planet of the Apes.

But seriously, your post seems to reveal some sort of underlying resentment against "white preachers" or perhaps just a specific group of "white preachers." In my experience, and I've lived among Hispanics all of my life, there are many who want to "conform" to the Anglo society in Norte America and appreciate using the the translation systems as their English skills develop. They are especially keen to have their children in the classes and playing with English speaking kids.

In every church I've been in, there was always a painful time when the Spanish language group got big enough to be on their own. Many of the Spanish speakers refused to part with the "white preachers" (or black, or whatever). This often led to a few within the Spanish language group trying to apply unfair and even racist pressure to get all of the Spanish speaking people to line up together.

When you work and live among the Hispanic population in the Southwest U.S. you are often surprised by the overt racism found in the community. Outright hatred is very prevalent and is exploited by some politicians. As a "white kid" growing up, at first I thought that only whites could be so prejudiced. But interaction with other cultures shows the problem to be a real human problem.

One thing that effects the Spanish churches around here is that until recently most Spanish surnamed Apostolics were the descendants of Spanish colonists – and their ancestors were never Mexican citizens and never thought of themselves as “Mexicans.”

Most of the old Spanish families in the region settled here in Pre-Mexican independence times to escape prejudice from their Catholic compatriots. This whole region was considered a neglected backwater by the recently created Mexican government, leading to most of their problems in losing control of the land.

The vast majority of Spanish speaking people in the region during the 1820's - 1840's favored separation from Mexico. Spanish speaking people around here considered "Mexicans" to be "corrupt," "dirty" and "lazy." That's where that particular stereotype came from, not from "Anglos."

These Spanish families were mostly secret Protestants or Crypto-Jews (Conversarios). Some of my friends had grandmothers who would set a Seder table every Easter Sunday, complete with the Elijah cup- and no one really knew why or what the whole thing meant. They would have been killed for doing that under Spanish and Mexican law.

Even today when they say, “We’re not Mexican-Americans, we’re Spanish-Americans…” they are attacked and falsely accused of “denying” their Mexican ancestry. That these brethren have suffered 500 years of abuse and racism from all sides, and yet they keep a very proud and noble past alive is a testament to the strength of the human spirit – and the importance of the Holy Spirit!

Ronzo 07-14-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 184964)
What language in heaven?

Hebrew


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