Church Problems in Ohio Thread
 

Folks, I closed and soft deleted this thread so Admin can take some thought and review.


I do have a question that all need to consider.



How much negative in regards to Christianity can you take in before it affects you spiritually? Something to think about.

I commend you on your decision.

Brownnoser! :D

I assure you, I don't post here enough to get points! :D

However, I do sincerely commend him on his decision...it was the right thing to do.

Thanks, Matt.

Hello.

How much? How much indeed?

Let me say something really, really positive:

"God's people are NOT children of the devil." I am reminded the words of a somewhat defamed prophet as he spoke the truth in regards to God's people;

Num 23:23 Surely [there is] no enchantment against Jacob, neither [is there] any divination against Israel: according to this time it shall be said of Jacob and of Israel, What hath God wrought!

That is very positive.

Guess I missed it... as usual.

Something tells me I'm glad I missed it...

The thread was based on a publicly published article in a newspaper.

If the thought in closing the thread is that we need to bury our heads in the sand and ignore any problems in the church then I have to greatly disagree with Elder Flemming in commending this action.

I don't have a problem with the review I just hope that common sense prevails. We cannot ignore things like this, especially when they are in the public domain and common knowldege. There are lessons to be learned and the thread in question could very well keep someone else from making a similar mistake.

We can't ignore. Hmmm...define we.

There are authorities handling this that know more about it than we do. Safe to assume MOW knows more about it than we do. Why? Because they are involved and we know very precious little save what someone else has told us. We can't ignore?

We do not even have the right to be involved and we are putting forth our expert opinions as if we have all knowledge.

I love it. TIC, of course.

Elder Flemming? I reject such a title. When did we get so formal CC?

Any man who has Pastored Rico deserves to be called Elder in my book!

Oh, well...by all means. :D


I am too young for that stuff...leave it in the AMF where it belongs. :D

My apologies to my friends in the AMF...it was just too good to pass up! :D

Talk to you later CC. I just stepped into the office for some stats pastor wanted. Gotta head to the platform and do some pickin' and grinnin'! :D

I personally don't think the issue is negativity but one of truth. How much truth about Christianity is it going to take before the Bride cleans the spots of her wedding dress. Revelation does tell us that the Bride has made herself ready.

We must tell the truth but we must also herald the heroes. There are many men and women who have sacrificed most everything just to preach the gospel like the Alvears and others. They are heroes. I know they don't think so, but I appreciate people like that, and the Willoughby's who are also personal friends from ABI.

May God grant to us more heroes!!!

A young pastor from this state was in our church this morning and I thought it was kind of weird how the men on the platform were fawning over him. I don't think he is directly involved, but he may be closely related.

I couldn't remember his name even if someone said it so no PMs please. :D

This isn't funny. If I made even one comment on Michael Flemming as a pastor I risk being banned. If I can't make comments about him as a pastor then no one should be able to make comments about me as a saint.

Anyone who can sit successfully under Brother Flemming should be considered a saint.

:killinme

As long as it affects peoples opinions about the UPC and Pentecost in general . . . you bet your sweet bippy we have the right to discuss this.

Saint Rico doesn't sound too bad.:noidea