When is a lie justified?
 

Just wondered.....
When is a lie justified??

Any thoughts?

When someone takes a phone call from you? :killinme:hypercoffee

I don't know that a lie ever is. Sometimes, though, not telling everything or being vague may make sense--but intentionally telling a falsehood is listed as a sin in the Bible.

Brett,
Lets say you give someone your WORD, just to find out their word means nothing?

HAHA
No phone calls here..

In war.

Definitely when someone's life is in danger and the lie is necessary to divert attn...

See Post #2

:telephone

YOU are so BAD! :D

Not keep your WORD because someone else broke their's..........
Do you think this could be interpreted: "gave his word to his own hurt, but kept it anyway"?

Since when does someone else not having integrity mean I should not uphold mine?

See post number 5 :telephone

Call me Dan....tomorrow, please. NOt tonight.


Oh wait...you don't have my new number....


:hypercoffee

:killinme:killinme

Howie Carr on A Boston Radio Station used to say-

"When the phone don't ring, you will know it is ME!"

:killinme

OWWW!


:D

I lost all my numbers when I wiped my Sprint Phone.

You know how to find me. :D

Google Earth is a great app-

Of course I have the Linux version...... :boomm

uhhhh dont have your other number...

There you go, using that infernal software again.


:D

Rahab lied.
When is it appropraiate?
I suppose if its God telling you to do it.
I have had God tell me one night to stay home
from church.I thought I must be hearing voices.
Surely God would not tell me something like that.
What I did not know was that there was a group
of people who planned to grill me in the pastors office as
I was his "trainee" at the time.Flunkie that is.
I was later justified and God took my side.
Thank God for the Holy Ghost.:driving

I find something worthwile and rewarding when others come together to help each other for the betterment of all.

I have Redhat 7..I think it is. Never installed it. Thinking about it on an old machine just to see what it does.

That is a very OLD software. The installation will need a lot of tweaking. I have 7.1 on a old, old Compaq Armada laptop. I think it was a P166 with 32 Meg of RAM. Workable, but NOT easy.

I wonder if it would be considered a lie to be a licensed minister with the UPCI, sign an AS which when done says you are affirming that you will uphold and teach the articles of faith that the UPCI has, and then have a tv and watch secular entertainment in your home??


BTW DAN, I have read the PM's. ALL that was stated was "Ask Away" and "Just ask already". There was never a "word" given, so there is no lie.

A lie is never "justified"...............

Isn't a lying tongue one of the things God hates?

It would depend. If there was some sort of promise that was contingent upon their fulfilling their end of the bargain--that's not a lie. That's a broken agreement or broken contract.

Let's define lie.

SO...this thread is NOT about is it ever right for a Saint to lie, but something else?! :sshhh

Play on, Dan...:rolleyes:

But I have yours AND his!:killinme:killinme

:telephone:telephone:telephone:telephone

I wonder if it is wrong for the Apostles to escape prison and become Fugitives and for the Holy Spirit to be an accomplice to their escape... :nah

Attack? Can you not understand the post? I am doing quite the contrary...I'm defending the work of the HG... not everything can be put in a box... some things require discretion ... having said that, just like in the example where the Apostles escaped prison is right...there are times when lying is appropriate (like when it involves someone's life being in danger).... capiche?


I am steppin' away to go LIE on the tanning bed... :killinme


http://www.co.rockland.ny.us/health/...%20bed.jpg



For those that are confused with the relevance of the image see the following post:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=393

J-Roc, your presentation of a bad joke aimed in a personal way may well be considered an insult by IAM.

Poor taste indeed to carry it from thread to thread.

:nah

Conference call!!

:telephone :telephone :telephone

Been there...Been Saddened and moved on....

It happens.. Some folks just have a problem with the truth...

those are simply jokes...don't you think they are silly and harmless...I remember Coonskinner posting a picture of a "toro" on me and I was fine with it, and so was everyone else since he did not get called out on it.

There is another lie!!!! Except this time told to you and misleading, obviously you you were NOT given ALL the pm's!
I just sent them to you!
I never intended for details to go public.....!!!

Dan,

I would suggest you take this off the forum and handle privately with Matt.