Which Side will you Choose if you're a Saint?
 

With all the talk of churches pulling out of the organization, I wonder which side the saint will follow.

Will they stay with their church and whatever the pastor chooses OR look for something else OR start something else?

For me the most important thing is to be in a church that is a true worshipping church. That is most important.

I have a friend that had a vision of churches moving from one side of a red line to the other. The Lord showed my friend that He was separating the true worhipping churches from those that are not, AND that He was drawing His Spirit away from those that are NOT true worshipping churches.

So for ME I only am interested in going to a TRUE WORSHIPPING church!

What about you?

Where do you stand?

I am choosing the LORD'S side!

I'm with BOOM.I love the church I attend.I am not there for the label.

Good choice!

That is great!

I would imagine that good saints are going to stay with their shepherd.

I didn't choose my church based on the organization, but based on the pastor. But as far as I know, he's not changing his affiliation.

my pastor has enough sense to stay put..there will be no "pulling out"

he said he's got more important things to worry about, like seeing folks saved....let those that want to mess with tv do it, folks are going to do what they are going to do...regardless of some vote.

Probably most will. In fact, unless they live in a city where there are more than one to choose from they may not have a choice.

Although, there may be a very "few" that this would influence them to change.

I explained my decision in a business meeting. I don't normally discuss "UPC issues" with my people, but, since THIS issue was of such a nature that I decided to drop my license, I felt like they needed to know.

I gave them my personal history (I was opposed to it BEFORE I sought license -- the UPC took a stand against it BEFORE I sought license -- I never would have sought license had they decided otherwise). I wanted them to know that I would no longer be affiliated with the UPCI. I provided them the opportunity to choose how they wised to respond.

I live in a metro area. There are MANY other churches within driving distance, some of which are (in my opinion) VERY liberal. The saints I pastor are staying put. NONE of them want to leave because of an affiliation (or lack thereof). They are part of this church because of the church -- NOT because of the UPCI. We will continue to be who we are and what we are. The card in my pocket is totally irrelevant to our existence. They understand that, so my decision has no bearing on their membership here.

Is there another organization out there as of now, that teaches to stay away from TV?

I can'timagine why it would be otherwise.

In speaking about conservative church saints, most are too dependent upon the pastor to leave. They're more apt to stick with the pastor than mods or libs would be. They've been spoon-fed so much that without that kind of conservative structure, they'd feel out of place. They need to be told what they can or can't do; where they can or can't go, etc.

So I doubt many, if any, saints from these churches will leave.

Well with all due respect, as much as I love my pastor, if I felt he was going the wrong direction, I would not follow.

I am conservative and I know how to read the bible for myself and even
parse from the Greek text thanks to classes from an apostolic bible teacher.
I appreciate a pastor who takes a stand.You don't have to be a robot to stand
for holiness and separation.I totally disagree with your post.

Although what you say for yourself is true, not ALL will do it. Many are too lazy to read and study the Bible, they only believe what they are told.

Sister Esther I don't know alot like that and I attend a huge assembly.I can't ever remember meeting such a person either.Most apostolics I know have
found truth and go to churches that teach what they have found.Come out here for a visit we are in revival.

I found most have been raised in the church and haven't bothered to study for themselves.

But there are always exceptions. :)

I am loyal to our church and its leadership. Not an organization. Whether or not our church belongs to the UPCI isn't even part of my decision making process.

Exactly.

Great post, right thinking.

Who said that?

I'm not about organization either, but who is following the Word.

Ultra-cons put their 40 year old stance on television on par with Jesus-name baptism and talking in tongues... I FIRMLY believe that.

Based on the new rules, I welcome the forthcoming infraction... :)

I would be shocked if very many leave their preachers side. Most of the Ultra Cons believe it is a sin not to stick with your preacher because he is the chosen one to lead you.

Most ultra cons? What do you consider an ultra con? What do you consider yourself?

I do not think you should blindly follow a pastor any more than I think you should blindly follow an organization.

If they follow the Word as YOU also believe then I think you should stay with the pastor and/or organization.

But to assume you should follow your pastor no matter what, then I would have to remind you how many former UPC ministers have changed their stance and left the organization and would not agree that the saints should just blindly follow them.

ALL needs to pray about their decisions.

JMO

It has nothing at all to do with being an ultra con. I'm not an Ultra Con and neither is my pastor. Why would someone care whether or not their church belongs to an organization? If you agree with what your church teaches, and you are on line with the leadership, then why wouldn't you support your assembly?

I guess I can't see why someone would leave a church simply because that church removed itself from an organization...not for that reason alone, anyway....

I agree with you.

One gets the impression your church has not been very involved with UPC functions, otherwise it would have a greater impact. For instance, what about a family that has been involved in bible quizzing. I can tell you that it would be a lifestyle change to have something like that pulled out from under you. So there are some big issues at stake when turning in the card.

Right and if your pastor should happen to become more liberal they can leave for the church down the street and claim all over again this is the chosen one...sounds cultish to me

For lack of a better word I was refering to the older people who believe that their pastor can do no wrong ...and if they left their Pastor that would be "touching the annointed".