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ILG 10-10-2007 11:07 AM

CT Results
 
Well the news came back not quite as good as we'd hoped. There is some in a lymph node and some spots on his liver. The dr doesn't think the spot on his liver could be cancer....going by the logic that testicluar cancer usually doesn't spread to the liver. But I know that he's already had bladder cancer. So, I'm scared. He has to have an ultrasound to find out what's going on there. The lymph node is close to the kidney, so they think he might have to go chemo rather than radiation. Please keep praying, I want God to be with us. I know He is, I just never understand these things. My husband's 40th birthday is tomorrow.

Ferd 10-10-2007 11:09 AM

Praying ILG.

The Mrs 10-10-2007 11:13 AM

Praying ILG!

Sarah 10-10-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 268338)
Well the news came back not quite as good as we'd hoped. There is some in a lymph node and some spots on his liver. The dr doesn't think the spot on his liver could be cancer....going by the logic that testicluar cancer usually doesn't spread to the liver. But I know that he's already had bladder cancer. So, I'm scared. He has to have an ultrasound to find out what's going on there. The lymph node is close to the kidney, so they think he might have to go chemo rather than radiation. Please keep praying, I want God to be with us. I know He is, I just never understand these things. My husband's 40th birthday is tomorrow.

I, too, had hoped for good news from your husband's report, ILG.

Remember, God is still in control.

We're still praying. I have a son your husband's age.

Tina 10-10-2007 11:15 AM

Praying..

HeavenlyOne 10-10-2007 11:19 AM

Praying for you. I'll try and call you this evening if you don't have church service. Let me know.

ILG 10-10-2007 11:24 AM

Thank you for the prayers. I'm just kind of speechless right now.

rgcraig 10-10-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 268351)
Thank you for the prayers. I'm just kind of speechless right now.

And this is exactly the time to lean into HIS arms and let him hold you up. He's there for you and knows the outcome of all this already, so trust Him and be strong in the prayers and thoughts of others coming your way now!

Love ya!

Carpenter 10-10-2007 12:04 PM

ILG, I just said a prayer for you and your husband for the ministry of HIS spirit to overwhelm you.

I am going to be 40 in March.

ILG 10-10-2007 12:06 PM

Thank you everybody. Now it looks like he is having kidney stone pain on top of it. I am not sure what they are going to do about that. He has a history of kidney stones and already has had a couple of procedures done for that. I feel so sorry for him. He is in contact with his urologist.

RevDWW 10-10-2007 12:10 PM

Praying!
Tell him to drink a LOT of water. I have a kidney stone 15+ years ago and have drunk copious amounts of water since, and thank the good Lord, have not had another episode.

God is God over every ailment!!!!!!

rgcraig 10-10-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 268375)
Thank you everybody. Now it looks like he is having kidney stone pain on top of it. I am not sure what they are going to do about that. He has a history of kidney stones and already has had a couple of procedures done for that. I feel so sorry for him. He is in contact with his urologist.

Oh goodness - - I can empathize with him on that!

Elizabeth 10-10-2007 12:39 PM

ILG, I know this is one of those times where God doesn't make sense. He is faithful and said He's never leave nor forsake us, rest assured that he will see you through this.

I will be praying for you both today!

Trouvere 10-10-2007 03:53 PM

Sister there is a pill he can take to inhibit the acid that causes the stones.
I am praying for you now.

Lord in the Name of Jesus you see my sister and her husband.All things are possible with you Jesus.There is nothing that is too great for you to take care of.We commit this situation into your hands in the Name of Jesus
and believe that all things work together for good for those who are the called according to your purpose.

aquestioninggirl 10-10-2007 04:11 PM

Praying

LadyRev 10-10-2007 04:17 PM

Will be praying for you both.

rgcraig 10-10-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere (Post 268548)
Sister there is a pill he can take to inhibit the acid that causes the stones.
I am praying for you now.

Lord in the Name of Jesus you see my sister and her husband.All things are possible with you Jesus.There is nothing that is too great for you to take care of.We commit this situation into your hands in the Name of Jesus
and believe that all things work together for good for those who are the called according to your purpose.

Not always the case. They have to analyze the chemical makeup of the stone to determine if the meds can be used.

My dad has the type that he was able to take the meds and hasn't had a kidney stone since he started taking them.

I, however, did NOT have the type that the meds would work. I just keep drinking water and pray I never have another one!

tamor 10-10-2007 05:05 PM

Praying for you guys, ILG! Cancer is scary, no matter how you dice it. I pray for healing - both physically and emotionally!!

FRINGE_NUTTER 10-10-2007 06:02 PM

ILG, I will be praying for you and your husband.

God bless you, Sister.

CC1 10-10-2007 06:04 PM

ILG,

I know these are tough times. I am praying for your husband, you, and all of the family.

Barb 10-10-2007 06:28 PM

Praying here, girl...

chosenbyone 10-10-2007 06:47 PM

ILG,

I've followed your posts closely regarding your husband's physical trials and the anguish that it has caused you. I wanted to tell you that I have been praying and believing for complete and total restoration of health for your husband.

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. James 1:17

Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. Hebrews 11:1

Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, and he saved them from their distress. Psalm 107:13

ILG 10-10-2007 07:27 PM

Thank you so much for your prayers today. It has been very trying. My husband writhed in pain this afternoon but he thinks MAYBE he's over the worst part of the kidney stone thing. He hasn't seen anything yet, but the intense pain has passed for the moment. He may have passed it or, he may just be in the right position for the pain to ease up and later it might come back. I pray it's over for him. Poor guy.

He had an ultrasound today about the liver spots. The person doing the ultrasound who is NOT trained in reading and is not a doctor but who has done this for 20 years said her opinion is that it is benign. Well, she may not be a doctor, but it has helped me get through the day, hoping that she's right.

God bless you all.

Blubayou 10-10-2007 07:32 PM

Praying! I know that this is rough. God is able to help you and your husband through this. Remember to take care of yourself during this time. I will call pray for you daily.

SDG 10-10-2007 07:40 PM

Praying for your hubby and you.

Ron 10-10-2007 07:40 PM

ILG. it appears you are really going through it right now as a family.
God is ready, willing, and altogether able!
I too have had Kidney Stones as well-drink lots of water-helps keep the pipes from clogging with a kidney stone.

If he passes one, try to retrieve it for analysis by the lab.
Some stones such as myself are idiopathic, which means there is no known cause for it.

Praying that God will give your husband a Miraculous 40 TH Birthday present!

In Jesus Name!

philjones 10-10-2007 08:20 PM

ILG,

I am certainly praying for your husband and you!

Bro-Larry 10-11-2007 09:48 PM

Jesus has already done the healing. All your husband needs to do is, find a scripture that promises healing and say it with a mustard seed of faith. Then forget about the problem. From that moment on, just give God praise. Don't tell anybody about the problem, don't talk about the problem. Don't think on the problem. Just talk about the answer as if you have it now. Keep doing that until you see it come to pass. (Mark 11:23-24)

HeavenlyOne 10-12-2007 08:53 AM

For those of you who are prone to stones......NO SODA!

ILG 10-12-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 269622)
Jesus has already done the healing. All your husband needs to do is, find a scripture that promises healing and say it with a mustard seed of faith. Then forget about the problem. From that moment on, just give God praise. Don't tell anybody about the problem, don't talk about the problem. Don't think on the problem. Just talk about the answer as if you have it now. Keep doing that until you see it come to pass. (Mark 11:23-24)

That sounds sort of nuts, BL. I can't control my husband's healing nor my husband his own by quoting scripture and forgetting the problem exists. I think the best thing to do is trust God and chose to love others and be happy regardless of circumstances. Some people have been healed, some have died, some have suffered etc. What we control is Who we worship and chose to believe in regardless of the answer He gives us. I intend to look up and trust no matter how bleak or how awful. I'm not saying I'll even do a good job. I just try and let God fight the battle. I am hoping and believing for a good outcome. God is good......all the time. My husband's prognosis is supposed to be good, but I have friends whose son died after fasting, praying and giving it all to God. In the end, unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain that build it. I do believe my husband will be healed, but your answer doesn't seem based in solid biblical Christianity. Not that I don't appreciate the effort.

Bro-Larry 10-12-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 270377)
That sounds sort of nuts, BL. I can't control my husband's healing nor my husband his own by quoting scripture and forgetting the problem exists. I think the best thing to do is trust God and chose to love others and be happy regardless of circumstances. Some people have been healed, some have died, some have suffered etc. What we control is Who we worship and chose to believe in regardless of the answer He gives us. I intend to look up and trust no matter how bleak or how awful. I'm not saying I'll even do a good job. I just try and let God fight the battle. I am hoping and believing for a good outcome. God is good......all the time. My husband's prognosis is supposed to be good, but I have friends whose son died after fasting, praying and giving it all to God. In the end, unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain that build it. I do believe my husband will be healed, but your answer doesn't seem based in solid biblical Christianity. Not that I don't appreciate the effort.



Dear Sis ILG,

I'm just trying to help you.

Matt 8:17 says Jesus has already taken our infirmities and borne our sicknesses. 1 Pet 2:24 says by His stripes we were healed. Both these scriptures are past tense. That means God has already done the work. All your husband has to do is hear and hear these truths (because faith comes by hearing and hearing) Rom 10:17. After he receives a mustard seed of faith, he should begin to say , " I am healed. " Not " I'm going to be healed". Mark 11:23 says that whatever he says with his mouth and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what HE says shall come to pass, He shall have whatever HE says.

You can see by that scripture that this is something he must do for himself, you cannot do it for him. You said that you can't control his healing. You are exactly right.

ILG 10-12-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 270533)
Dear Sis ILG,

I'm just trying to help you.

Matt 8:17 says Jesus has already taken our infirmities and borne our sicknesses. 1 Pet 2:24 says by His stripes we were healed. Both these scriptures are past tense. That means God has already done the work. All your husband has to do is hear and hear these truths (because faith comes by hearing and hearing) Rom 10:17. After he receives a mustard seed of faith, he should begin to say , " I am healed. " Not " I'm going to be healed". Mark 11:23 says that whatever he says with his mouth and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what HE says shall come to pass, He shall have whatever HE says.

You can see by that scripture that this is something he must do for himself, you cannot do it for him. You said that you can't control his healing. You are exactly right.

I understand you were trying to help, but my husband can't control his healing either. I don't believe that a person can be healed by a repeat of healing scripture passages. If that were true, then everyone would be healed. I do appreciate your support and your prayers, but people are healed because God is soveriegn and He does as He wills. If God tells my husband to repeat a phrase and he obeys, he will be healed, but many are not healed who do exactly what you prescribe. I am not angry. I just know that it's not that simple.

Bro-Larry 10-13-2007 12:50 PM

It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

ILG 10-13-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 270774)
It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

That's great! I would like to hear more of your story. I do believe that God heals, but (as you may have noticed) I don't believe that if a person just repeats scriptures and doesn't talk about the problem that they will be healed. Many have done that. That's not to discount your story. I thank and praise God for your healing and I know He is a great big God. But, I also know godly people who have believed for their healing and didn't obtain it. I believe my husband will be healed, but I try to put my faith in God and His sovereignty rather than in a formula for healing. I hope that makes sense to you. I'm sorry if I came across as ungrateful. Why don't you share your story?

Hoovie 10-13-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 270774)
It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

Trust me Larry, I am thrilled you are alive and well, but it is not because you discovered any prescribed formula or had a special kind of faith - It is primarily because it was the will of God.

Hoovie 10-13-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 269622)
Jesus has already done the healing. All your husband needs to do is, find a scripture that promises healing and say it with a mustard seed of faith. Then forget about the problem. From that moment on, just give God praise. Don't tell anybody about the problem, don't talk about the problem. Don't think on the problem. Just talk about the answer as if you have it now. Keep doing that until you see it come to pass. (Mark 11:23-24)

There is no such scripture with universial application for us today.

The problem is Adam and the results of his sin are with us and will remain with us until death - at which time the Lord shall remove even the sting of death it's self.

Rhoni 10-13-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 271089)
Trust me Larry, I am thrilled you are alive and well, but it is not because you discovered any prescribed formula or had a special kind of faith - It is primarily because it was the will of God.

Bro. Hoover & ILG,

Before I would discount Big Larry's story I would read his thread about his healing. I go to church with him and he is indeed a man of faith. God has healed him completely.

Read my story which I have posted as October 17, 1991. I do believe what Bro. Hoover said, It is the will of God that we are healed or not, but I also believe that the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Prayer does change things as it did for Hezekiah and for me, as well as Bro. Larry.

ILG, I don't pretend to understand what you and your husband are going through right now. Life is not always fair, but God is always good. He will not leave or forsake us in time of trouble. He has promised to be our comfort and to go with us even until the end. He is as good as his word.

The Bible tells us that we are all given a measure of faith. When I pray I thank God that the train of His victories fills my temple. I trust him to answer my prayers because he has before. His answers do not always agree with mine but He has always been right.

It takes as much strength to believe negatively as it does to think positively...so choose the latter. We {many on AFF}and I will pray that God ease your husband's pain and take away the cause of it. It isn't against God's law to remind him of his promises and the stripes he took for our healing. Pray and speak his word into your life. It isn't in anything you can or can't do but it encourages you and let's God know you are there and need him.

Love & Prayers, Sis. Rhonda

Bro-Larry 10-13-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 271090)
There is no such scripture with universial application for us today.

The problem is Adam and the results of his sin are with us and will remain with us until death - at which time the Lord shall remove even the sting of death it's self.

Steven, if you don't believe it, don't worry, it won't work for you.

ILG 10-13-2007 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 271103)
Bro. Hoover & ILG,

Before I would discount Big Larry's story I would read his thread about his healing. I go to church with him and he is indeed a man of faith. God has healed him completely.

I didn't discount Larry's story at all. I said that I don't think that just because someone quotes and repeats scriptures and forgets the problem that they are guaranteed healing. That is what Bro. Larry pretty much said. Anyway, I am waiting to hear his story. Point me in that direction. Where is it?

Hoovie 10-13-2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 269622)
Jesus has already done the healing. All your husband needs to do is, find a scripture that promises healing and say it with a mustard seed of faith. Then forget about the problem. From that moment on, just give God praise. Don't tell anybody about the problem, don't talk about the problem. Don't think on the problem. Just talk about the answer as if you have it now. Keep doing that until you see it come to pass. (Mark 11:23-24)

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Originally Posted by big-larry (Post 270774)
It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

I can readily accept that you have recieved a miracle of healing. I cannot accept the premise you set forth here since I believe it supposes too much.


The problem Larry, is that many, many have the aforementioned mustard seed faith and even greater, believe wholly in His promises, and face long term illness, suffering and death from the illness. It is the human condition that God can and does make exception to at times. To say the exception should be the rule for Christians is damaging and harmful. I have personally seen people lose their faith entirely over this issue.

I am certainly NOT opposed to making our wishes and desires known to God, but in my opinion, we would do well to end each and every pray with NEVERTHELESS, NOT MY WILL BUT THINE BE DONE.


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