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Re: False Prophecies Everywhere, not just Charisma

And while I realize that there will be trials of incredible
Magnitude, and we were told what will happen—we also need to know we were not commanded to perseverate over bloody imagery, and hopeless, intractable persecution porn in our minds.

Two kinds of people in my life do that—pre-tribbers, and people with little or no family-especially vulnerable little children. I’m aware of what’s coming. But I simply can’t live with such imagery dominating my daily life.

Re: False Prophecies Everywhere, not just Charisma

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Originally Posted by Ronnie G (Post 1600613)

My comments were meant for 1 God. My thinking is if people cant take hearing a few facts about what goes on EVEN NOW.........Lord help us.

We actually should be teaching our children these things are happening and what to expect in the future.

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I agree we should be preparing our children—we should also be tempering it with “Occupy till I come.”

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Originally Posted by Ronnie G (Post 1600617)

I agree we should be preparing our children—we should also be tempering it with “Occupy till I come.”

:highfive

Re: False Prophecies Everywhere, not just Charisma

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Originally Posted by 1 God (Post 1600608)

Odd. Most Christians believed in the rapture until about 15 years ago. A new doctrine has emerged in Christendom, dominating the land. It says that Jesus will guide us through the near extinction of the earth in 7 years, instead of keeping us from it. I try to comprehend my unsaved neighbors hideously dying before my eyes as I am untouched. Will I rejoice for 7 years as all food and water etc is taken and my house is demolished along with the rest of my town, and I am a vagabond in the ruins of my city? Either these anti-rapture folks have no foresight or they unwittingly love an anguish inflicting God.

So, I post a clear-as-can-possibly-be refutation of your rapture error, from the mouth of Jesus Christ Himself... and so you pivot to some tryhard effeminate appeal to emotion? You are literally saying "I know Jesus said not to take us out of the world but if you believe that, you are a meanie who worships a meanie God! Just trust me, bro!"

This is how the rapture cult operates. They literally use standard observable cultic techniques of attempted psychological bullying and non-rational, emotive "arguments" that aren't even actual arguments. "Think of the chirrenz!" That's what rapturism amounts to.

Sad.

Re: False Prophecies Everywhere, not just Charisma

Sir, you are incredibly tough to be able to sit and watch the annihilation by God of your community and unsaved loved ones, leaving you alive, but a vagabond in a wasteland for 7 years. I know very tough men that do not want to face a single plague depicted in the book of Rev, but you are a man of men.

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1600610)

They by far still believe in a PRE TRIB rapture. If you are saying the post trib is dominating the land I ask what land you live in? As one who makes mental notes of this I would say there are at least 20 pre trib Churches to one post trib.

Well that will be for his glory.

Your unsaved neighbors if they are alive will be turning you over to the system if indeed they are not taken out by one of Gods plagues against them.

I wonder if the suffering Christians in China see God as an "anguish inflicting" God? Why hasnt he raptured THEM to Heaven? Many of them are in prison camps as we speak. Many of them or their loved ones have been executed and their organs cut out and shipped to America for use.

Or how about believers in the middle east? Many are having their heads cut off. Their wives and children sold as slaves.

And yet somehow we think God owes it to the American Christian to take him to Heaven so he wont have to suffer for Jesus Christ!

Jesus said we would be hated of all nations.

The "new doctrine" that has taken over is the conservative doctrine of "American Exceptionalism".

Americans are essentially better people than other nations. Therefore they should not have to suffer.

I am not "anti rapture". I am anti "pre trib" rapture.

Your survival of the GT will mean you must hide in a bunker for 7 years with massive armaments and a food/water supply to get you to the end. Most likely you will die a horrible death if you do not. I see no other verse or passage from God providing a survival guide or a divine individual barrier for the GT. Just preach sure death by God to the saints and sinners around you as your revival message. i choose to tell them that God will keep them from these plagues VIA Rev 3:10. That is the message of deliverance from satan's wrath, God's wrath and hope.

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My assessment of Christianity today is they do not believe any of these warnings of plagues and vials of wrath, along with satan's wrath are even real. They think that it will be nothing to face them. The first/second etc, century saints that heard of these events would have been terrified to face them, even as they were under intense persecution in their time. Theologians have lost all fear of God in the last days. I believe these are the scoffers depicted in the N.T.