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n david 11-27-2019 11:45 AM

One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
Saw this posted on FB. Discuss.
  • Angels usher soul into Heaven - Luke 16:22
  • Immediately enters God's presence - 2 Corinthians 5:6-8
  • Is conscious, able to think, feel, speak and have memories - Luke 16:19-31
  • Participates in worship with angels before the throne of God - Revelation 4-5
  • Is aware of activities and events on earth - Revelation 6:9-10
  • Will recognize and communicate with believers who preceded you to Heaven - Luke 9:28-36

Amanah 11-27-2019 06:27 PM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1575573)
Saw this posted on FB. Discuss.
  • Angels usher soul into Heaven - Luke 16:22
  • Immediately enters God's presence - 2 Corinthians 5:6-8
  • Is conscious, able to think, feel, speak and have memories - Luke 16:19-31
  • Participates in worship with angels before the throne of God - Revelation 4-5
  • Is aware of activities and events on earth - Revelation 6:9-10
  • Will recognize and communicate with believers who preceded you to Heaven - Luke 9:28-36

How you interpret these passages would depend on your eschatology, how literally you interpret these passages,
how do you interpret the rapture/resurrection, ect ect.

Esaias 11-27-2019 08:39 PM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1575573)
Saw this posted on FB. Discuss.


Farcebook is lame. Created by a joint Harvard/CIA programme. Zuckerberg is a fraud. It's all about social engineering and creating and controlling mass movements. Farcebook is Big Brother. Farcebook is primarily for losers and businesses reselling cheap junk from AliExpress.

derAlte 12-07-2019 08:15 AM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1575582)
Farcebook is lame. Created by a joint Harvard/CIA programme. Zuckerberg is a fraud. It's all about social engineering and creating and controlling mass movements. Farcebook is Big Brother. Farcebook is primarily for losers and businesses reselling cheap junk from AliExpress.

There you go again being wishy-washy. I'd wish you'd just tell us how you really feel.

TJJJ 12-07-2019 02:30 PM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1575579)
How you interpret these passages would depend on your eschatology, how literally you interpret these passages,
how do you interpret the rapture/resurrection, ect ect.

:thumbsup

mfblume 12-07-2019 03:24 PM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1575573)
Saw this posted on FB. Discuss.
  • Angels usher soul into Heaven - Luke 16:22

Not necessarily applicable to every believer's death. This was a story that included details that were true, but showed death before the cross before Christ took captivity captive, and not teaching about afterlife but about Pharisees and believers in Christ.

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  • Immediately enters God's presence - 2 Corinthians 5:6-8
  • Is conscious, able to think, feel, speak and have memories - Luke 16:19-31

I agree with these two ponts above.
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  • Participates in worship with angels before the throne of God - Revelation 4-5
  • Is aware of activities and events on earth - Revelation 6:9-10

Not necessarily true as these are visions in Revelation that are not actual sightings of heaven. Much symbolism involved, though I do not doubt we will worship God!

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  • Will recognize and communicate with believers who preceded you to Heaven - Luke 9:28-36

That reference has nothing to do with heaven. It was a vision o earth on a mountain. Not sure why itw as used.

Nicodemus1968 12-08-2019 06:04 AM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1575573)
Saw this posted on FB. Discuss.
  • Angels usher soul into Heaven - Luke 16:22
  • Immediately enters God's presence - 2 Corinthians 5:6-8
  • Is conscious, able to think, feel, speak and have memories - Luke 16:19-31
  • Participates in worship with angels before the throne of God - Revelation 4-5
  • Is aware of activities and events on earth - Revelation 6:9-10
  • Will recognize and communicate with believers who preceded you to Heaven - Luke 9:28-36

You ought to ask TJJJ if he would explain to you his revelation about Luke 16 with the rich man and Lazarus, very powerful!

I do agree with Amanah peoples understanding is going to be hinged on what there eschatology defines. When you read this stuff, all the writings in the Holy Bible come from revelation. There is a Pastor from Tennessee that told me his former Pastor used to tell him to read the Bible like a book. You cant do that, you read it like a book you’ll miss the mark (not the mark of the “beast”, please). Old Testament, New Testament, its all pure revelation. Look at Revelation under the title in my bible it says “The Revelation of Jesus Christ” a few verses into the book, he proclaims

Revelation 1:10 KJVS
[10] I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,


The spiritual understand the words of this book, if your not spiritual then its all physical, carnal, and fleshy.

diakonos 12-08-2019 12:07 PM

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You ought to ask TJJJ if he would explain to you his revelation about Luke 16 with the rich man and Lazarus, very powerful!

Huh?

Evang.Benincasa 12-08-2019 01:41 PM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1575955)
Huh?

I thought it was good when he first told me.

That was about 17 or 16 years ago.

Esaias 12-08-2019 03:00 PM

Re: One Minute After a Believer Dies
 
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1575956)
I thought it was good when he first told me.

That was about 17 or 16 years ago.

That it's a parable about the high priest etc?


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