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brostewart 02-06-2019 03:03 PM

Gifts of healing
 
I'm interested in folks ideas on the gifts of healings, being separate gifts, or all inclusive. I also believe consecration, anointing and holiness are imperative for these gifts to function reliably and consistently. Elders Wisdom very much appreciated...... Shalom

Esaias 02-06-2019 05:03 PM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Gifts of healings - each healing is a gift. The context (1 Cor 12:28) seems to refer to "those used to minister healing(s)" so the plurality has to do with the plurality of people so used in the assembly.

jediwill83 02-07-2019 02:18 PM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brostewart (Post 1557775)
I'm interested in folks ideas on the gifts of healings, being separate gifts, or all inclusive. I also believe consecration, anointing and holiness are imperative for these gifts to function reliably and consistently. Elders Wisdom very much appreciated...... Shalom


Well...so the Corinthian church was consecrated, annointed and holy?


Paul tells them that they are involved in sin that even the heathens dont do but also tells them that they are second to none in the gifts...


Now he doesnt forbid their use...in fact he teaches them how to use the gifts decently and in order.


I said all that to say this...the gifts are not there to validate the man being used in the gifts.


The gifts are there to validate the Word.


People in blatent sin can be and are used in the gifts.


It doesnt mean that it justifies their sin...in fact...its a sobering reminder of the goodness of God that He would not only use a highly imperfect person and by doing so try to woo them back BUT also that He doesnt withhold what we need as far as being ministered to by the gifts because He cant find a "worthy perfect" person around to do the ministering.


Man sometimes God uses people in the present with the caveat,"This is important...but Ill deal with you later."


The work of God doesn't come to a screeching halt because someone has sin...


You mentioned annointing.


What does annointing mean to you?


For a New Testament Spirit filled believer...is the annointing permanent?


Does it wax and wane?

Apostolic1ness 02-08-2019 06:19 AM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1557799)
Well...so the Corinthian church was consecrated, annointed and holy?


Paul tells them that they are involved in sin that even the heathens dont do but also tells them that they are second to none in the gifts...


Now he doesnt forbid their use...in fact he teaches them how to use the gifts decently and in order.


I said all that to say this...the gifts are not there to validate the man being used in the gifts.


The gifts are there to validate the Word.


People in blatent sin can be and are used in the gifts.


It doesnt mean that it justifies their sin...in fact...its a sobering reminder of the goodness of God that He would not only use a highly imperfect person and by doing so try to woo them back BUT also that He doesnt withhold what we need as far as being ministered to by the gifts because He cant find a "worthy perfect" person around to do the ministering.


Man sometimes God uses people in the present with the caveat,"This is important...but Ill deal with you later."


The work of God doesn't come to a screeching halt because someone has sin...


You mentioned annointing.


What does annointing mean to you?


For a New Testament Spirit filled believer...is the annointing permanent?


Does it wax and wane?

Im not so sure those actually used in the gifts from Corinth were involved in the sins Paul addressed.

consapente89 02-08-2019 09:10 AM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1557799)
Well...so the Corinthian church was consecrated, annointed and holy?


Paul tells them that they are involved in sin that even the heathens dont do but also tells them that they are second to none in the gifts...


Now he doesnt forbid their use...in fact he teaches them how to use the gifts decently and in order.


I said all that to say this...the gifts are not there to validate the man being used in the gifts.


The gifts are there to validate the Word.


People in blatent sin can be and are used in the gifts.


It doesnt mean that it justifies their sin...in fact...its a sobering reminder of the goodness of God that He would not only use a highly imperfect person and by doing so try to woo them back BUT also that He doesnt withhold what we need as far as being ministered to by the gifts because He cant find a "worthy perfect" person around to do the ministering.


Man sometimes God uses people in the present with the caveat,"This is important...but Ill deal with you later."


The work of God doesn't come to a screeching halt because someone has sin...


You mentioned annointing.


What does annointing mean to you?


For a New Testament Spirit filled believer...is the annointing permanent?


Does it wax and wane?

Not seeing any evidence that the gifts of the Spirit were being consistently and correctly operated in the Corinthian church. Were that the case, the Apostle would not have felt the need to give such detailed instruction as to how they SHOULD be operating.

n david 02-08-2019 12:33 PM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness (Post 1557812)
Im not so sure those actually used in the gifts from Corinth were involved in the sins Paul addressed.

:thumbsup

I don't agree that people who are actively, willfully and knowingly participating in sin are being led of the HG.

The two don't mix. God and Belial. Light and Darkness.

Sorry, but you won't have one with the other.

consapente89 02-08-2019 12:48 PM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1557825)
:thumbsup

I don't agree that people who are actively, willfully and knowingly participating in sin are being led of the HG.

The two don't mix. God and Belial. Light and Darkness.

Sorry, but you won't have one with the other.

Amen

brostewart 02-11-2019 11:13 AM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1557782)
Gifts of healings - each healing is a gift. The context (1 Cor 12:28) seems to refer to "those used to minister healing(s)" so the plurality has to do with the plurality of people so used in the assembly.

Thank you sir, Brother. The Word has every answer, I need prayer from Godly men that fight this battle that divides the Bride to be; to quit the in fighting and repair every breach in the Body that keeps Israel from revival of the Truth. Peace will rule and reign when we all agree we truly Love Jesus Will and quit every secret sin hindering His return. I myself have hidden in the fleshly sin of habitual backslidings, and ignored the purity the Lord asked of me. "Iron sharpeneth Iron" so your Godly response may help me recover His virtue and be healed......... Shalom.

Esaias 02-11-2019 12:17 PM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brostewart (Post 1558009)
Thank you sir, Brother. The Word has every answer, I need prayer from Godly men that fight this battle that divides the Bride to be; to quit the in fighting and repair every breach in the Body that keeps Israel from revival of the Truth. Peace will rule and reign when we all agree we truly Love Jesus Will and quit every secret sin hindering His return. I myself have hidden in the fleshly sin of habitual backslidings, and ignored the purity the Lord asked of me. "Iron sharpeneth Iron" so your Godly response may help me recover His virtue and be healed......... Shalom.

The Lord has given commandment to save us (Psalm 71:3). Not just a command to us, to "be saved", but our God has given forth His decree, we SHALL be saved!

Peace to you.

votivesoul 02-16-2019 06:16 PM

Re: Gifts of healing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brostewart (Post 1557775)
I'm interested in folks ideas on the gifts of healings, being separate gifts, or all inclusive. I also believe consecration, anointing and holiness are imperative for these gifts to function reliably and consistently. Elders Wisdom very much appreciated...... Shalom

What do you mean when you ask if the gifts of healing are separate gifts? I don't understand the question. Will you please clarify? Thanks.


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