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Sherri 07-10-2008 01:44 PM
Re: Richard Heard?
 
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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 524399)
Dude, I can answer that! Richard Heard went charismatic! LOL!
Ferd--you have NO clue what Charismatic is, evidently! Everyone would say that about us too, and I hate that generalization. Charismatics as a whole do not believe in Jesus' name baptism. Most of them would have shofars blowing, flags waving, dancing in the aisles every service, etc. They usually have a very loose structure of worship and church government. Most of them do however have strict moral codes, but they are kind of a whole breed to themselves.

One more time let me say that just because you leave UPC, you do not "go Charismatic". We are independent, but we are not Charismatics. Richard Heard would not be considered Charismatic either, from what I've seen. He's just an independent Spirit filled church.

SDG 07-10-2008 01:45 PM
Re: Richard Heard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 524415)
Ferd--you have NO clue what Charismatic is, evidently! Everyone would say that about us too, and I hate that generalization. Charismatics as a whole do not believe in Jesus' name baptism. Most of them would have shofars blowing, flags waving, dancing in the aisles every service, etc. They usually have a very loose structure of worship and church government. Most of them do however have strict moral codes, but they are kind of a whole breed to themselves.

One more time let me say that just because you leave UPC, you do not "go Charismatic". We are independent, but we are not Charismatics. Richard Heard would not be considered Charismatic either, from what I've seen. He's just an independent Spirit filled church.
Why take away from the truth, Sherri.

StMark 07-10-2008 01:48 PM
Re: Richard Heard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 524415)
Ferd--you have NO clue what Charismatic is, evidently! Everyone would say that about us too, and I hate that generalization. Charismatics as a whole do not believe in Jesus' name baptism. Most of them would have shofars blowing, flags waving, dancing in the aisles every service, etc. They usually have a very loose structure of worship and church government. Most of them do however have strict moral codes, but they are kind of a whole breed to themselves.

One more time let me say that just because you leave UPC, you do not "go Charismatic". We are independent, but we are not Charismatics. Richard Heard would not be considered Charismatic either, from what I've seen. He's just an independent Spirit filled church.

Sherri that's only one branch of Charismatics. To Pentecostals, It's
also those who believe in tongues, gifts, healing but no baptism, rules
or dress code at all.

Ferd 07-10-2008 01:48 PM
Re: Richard Heard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 524415)
Ferd--you have NO clue what Charismatic is, evidently! Everyone would say that about us too, and I hate that generalization. Charismatics as a whole do not believe in Jesus' name baptism. Most of them would have shofars blowing, flags waving, dancing in the aisles every service, etc. They usually have a very loose structure of worship and church government. Most of them do however have strict moral codes, but they are kind of a whole breed to themselves.

One more time let me say that just because you leave UPC, you do not "go Charismatic". We are independent, but we are not Charismatics. Richard Heard would not be considered Charismatic either, from what I've seen. He's just an independent Spirit filled church.
Sherri, I have never considered you charismatic. I dont agree with the direction you guys have gone. but I dont consider you charismatic.....

I hope that gives some solice. I have the capasity to see situations individually.

I will stand by the statement. especiallly when others quite close to the situation being considered agree.

PS, I think it is awesome that you guys have baptized so many of the last few weeks.

chosenbyone 07-10-2008 01:51 PM
Re: Richard Heard?
 
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Originally Posted by StMark (Post 524404)
A pastor's wife in TX that knew the people over that ministry
said they counceled a lot of young men who ended up in that
life and with AIDS who claimed they were turned out by preachers
at various events such as camp meetings, conferences, revivals.

Also, some folks on the right believe that incident was a sign
of judgment for what they did to Bro Free and for the direction
they took from what Bro Bean use to preach there
I mentioned last year about some PKs that I met at Ray's house who couldn't go home because of how the saints would react to them having AIDS. There was still a lot of ignorance and fear back then and it literally was heart breaking to see how families were torn apart. Let's just leave it at that...I don't want to talk about those unpleasant memories.

At the end of the day, people formed their own opinions and later gossiped about what happened at CT whether it lined up with the truth or not, Mark.

chosenbyone 07-10-2008 02:10 PM
Re: Richard Heard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by StMark (Post 524332)
O boy, you gonna get Chosenbyone's blood pressure
out of wack ! !!:ursofunny
Hey, I just saw this post! Don't try and drag me into ANY political discussions here on AFF! You're right about my blood pressure, Mark. It is high enough without arguing about Obama and McCain!

POWERUP 07-10-2008 02:17 PM
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You whats really funny. Is that all of the people with different views about some of us leaving the UPCI. Are going to be shocked when were standing beside them in heaven.

Cindy 07-10-2008 02:18 PM
Re: Richard Heard?
 
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone (Post 524490)
Hey, I just saw this post! Don't try and drag me into ANY political discussions here on AFF! You're right about my blood pressure, Mark. It is high enough without arguing about Obama and McCain!
Hey, I went to the doctor yesterday and my blood pressure was great!!!! Praise the Lord. Thankfully he doesn't know that I lost a pound. I always lose weight in the summertime.

Cindy 07-10-2008 02:18 PM
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Sorry for hi-jacking the thread.

LaGirl 07-10-2008 02:19 PM
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richard heard preached at our church YEEEEEEARS ago. i will see if we have tapes.


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