Tulsa Report Day 2
 

Day 1 has been hyjacked. So I will post news here. Thanks for the prayers and concern again.

We really can't go by the numbers posted here can we. I am not saying the 1500 number in inaccurate. What I am saying is that we have no break down of those in attendance. What percentage are UPC ministers, what percentage are independents looking for a fellowship, what percentage are "observers?" We really won't know what the actual number will be until this is over and we see the number of "sign ups." correct?

This is correct as I know personally 10 who are there from the upc well 8 are upc and the rest are aljc or independant... as observers only... so it would be interesting to see who all was actually there for the purpose.

Don't forget wives and kids also. They did say yesterday that the 1,000 count was ministers. That would make sense if there were a total of 1500-2000 people there since the rest would be made up of wives and kids.

Sorry again! I hope you are feeling better!

The downstairs seats 1600 and they said it was comfortably full. Two preachers told me 1200 was a safe number mostly men thus preachers. But you are correct many are observers which have no intention of joining. However let's say 500 join many of these are with large churches that would be quite a base for the formation of a group.

Yes the only reason anyone would ever "change the subject" would be either
boredom or uncomfortable subject matter.

At Baker when the AMF formed if I remember correctly about 72 men crossed the line to form and that doubled within months then in about 4 years it had jumped to about 250 remember this was 68. So 500 men with well known leaders and some large churches in 5 years if they handle themselves like gentlemen it could be a large growth. Remember this is from a bystander I have no intention of joining and I know many men who have came out of the UPC that have no intention of joining. The majority of men who attend the AMC will not join.

What, in your opinion, would be the reason?