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Nahum 01-31-2008 09:11 PM
How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
There are some who advocate the idea of appeasement.

The idea that the UPC should just allow dual membership with no questions asked.

That the UPC should stand by as its ministers and constituents are fed a line about a new "preferred Apostolic future/direction."



How far do you think the UPC should go to appease these men?

As a pastor, what would you do if a new and improved church opened up next door to you and solicited the members of the congregation you led?

AGAPE 01-31-2008 09:20 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
the UPC is not a "church"

Weary Pilgrim 01-31-2008 09:24 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 375693)
the UPC is not a "church"

Then in your opinion, what is it?
It'certainly is not "The church" but it is a church.

scotty 01-31-2008 09:34 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
The WPF split because they don't feel the UPC is holding to the standards.

there are a couple of sayings I really like, "if you want a new pastor, pray for the one you have" and " if your church was perfect, you couldn't be a member"

It has been wonderfully posted on another thread that these men could have preached and prayed to make a difference within the UPC without the division.
I just finished watching the last of the BOTT dvd's. Funny thing is, the most of it was about adhering to what our elders taught, holding to the standards, etc.

I like some others am starting to think there is something else to this split

JMO

bishoph 01-31-2008 09:45 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diamond Jim (Post 375697)
Then in your opinion, what is it?
It'certainly is not "The church" but it is a church.
While I certainly do not seek to argue about the particulars of "the church" versus "a church," I would have to disagree with you in calling the UPCI a church.

IMHO the UPCI is a ministerial association which was founded for the sake of fellowship and the propagation of the Gospel to the whole world. In a legal sense it is a non-profit corporation, nothing less nothing more. There are individual ministers and churches which are associated and or affiliated with said corporation, the UPCI, however, is not a church as an entity within itself.

I personally think this is one of the problems that UPC "lifers" have at times, they cannot separate the fact that the UPCI corp/organization is not a church. This is because, to some extent, this has been implied if not taught on a national/international level.

Sept5SavedTeen 01-31-2008 09:50 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
The WPF isn't trying to solicit members from the UPC churches to go to the WPF churches that are opening up across town... In fact I don't know of any new WPF churches that are opening up. Churches with UPC pastors are pulling out of the UPC, going WPF and making their churches affiliated with the WPF. On the WPF website it says they are NOT supposed to prosletize members of other Apostolic churches.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Jericho 01-31-2008 09:54 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
Are we having fun yet?????????

Rev 01-31-2008 10:05 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 375738)
While I certainly do not seek to argue about the particulars of "the church" versus "a church," I would have to disagree with you in calling the UPCI a church.

IMHO the UPCI is a ministerial association which was founded for the sake of fellowship and the propagation of the Gospel to the whole world. In a legal sense it is a non-profit corporation, nothing less nothing more. There are individual ministers and churches which are associated and or affiliated with said corporation, the UPCI, however, is not a church as an entity within itself.

I personally think this is one of the problems that UPC "lifers" have at times, they cannot separate the fact that the UPCI corp/organization is not a church. This is because, to some extent, this has been implied if not taught on a national/international level.
There you go spoiling all of their fun. :toofunny

jrLA 01-31-2008 10:13 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
I think the UPC needs to cut their losses so to speak. It is a travesty what has taken place. There is NO way these two can co-exist. No-way! I am not sure of the dynamics of it all, but, they should be forced to decided wither stay or leave! Not both!

Dan'D 01-31-2008 10:17 PM
Re: How Far Should The UPC Go to Appease Them?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrLA (Post 375783)
I think the UPC needs to cut their losses so to speak. It is a travesty what has taken place. There is NO way these two can co-exist. No-way! I am not sure of the dynamics of it all, but, they should be forced to decided wither stay or leave! Not both!
UPC on the losing end.

Dan’D
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