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embonpoint 02-01-2008 07:42 PM
Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
Another thread got me to thinking about this.

Let me first state that I am not a part of the UPC and have no intention of joining the WPF. So I don’t really have a dog in this fight. That being said there is a real irony that strikes me in my observation from the sideline.

One of the most vociferous and repetitious attacks on these men, and conservatives in general, is that they are motivated by a desire to control and a hunger for power. But what real power or control will they wield in the WPF.

These so-called controllers of the WPF do not
License ministers
Affiliate churches
Have Districts with all their officials
Preclude anyone from participation based on affiliation thus the assertion that they are not truly an organization as we know them today.

But their detractors want to kick them out because they
Held a meeting without permission
Invited ministers without org approval
Have financial involvement out side the org

I wonder who is interested in controlling whom here?

Rev 02-01-2008 09:26 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by embonpoint (Post 376986)
Another thread got me to thinking about this.

Let me first state that I am not a part of the UPC and have no intention of joining the WPF. So I don’t really have a dog in this fight. That being said there is a real irony that strikes me in my observation from the sideline.

One of the most vociferous and repetitious attacks on these men, and conservatives in general, is that they are motivated by a desire to control and a hunger for power. But what real power or control will they wield in the WPF.

These so-called controllers of the WPF do not
License ministers
Affiliate churches
Have Districts with all their officials
Preclude anyone from participation based on affiliation thus the assertion that they are not truly an organization as we know them today.

But their detractors want to kick them out because they
Held a meeting without permission
Invited ministers without org approval
Have financial involvement out side the org

I wonder who is interested in controlling whom here?

You're not going to get many replies. you make too much sense, and it's not what most people on this site want to hear.

bishoph 02-01-2008 09:32 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 377057)
You're not going to get many replies. you make too much sense, and it's not what most people on this site want to hear.
AMEN!

pelathais 02-01-2008 10:29 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by embonpoint (Post 376986)
Another thread got me to thinking about this.

Let me first state that I am not a part of the UPC and have no intention of joining the WPF. So I don’t really have a dog in this fight. That being said there is a real irony that strikes me in my observation from the sideline.

One of the most vociferous and repetitious attacks on these men, and conservatives in general, is that they are motivated by a desire to control and a hunger for power. But what real power or control will they wield in the WPF.

These so-called controllers of the WPF do not
License ministers
Affiliate churches
Have Districts with all their officials
Preclude anyone from participation based on affiliation thus the assertion that they are not truly an organization as we know them today.

But their detractors want to kick them out because they
Held a meeting without permission
Invited ministers without org approval
Have financial involvement out side the org

I wonder who is interested in controlling whom here?
I would not say that the WwPF are "control freaks" and I don't think that they're trying to set up some sort of kingdom for themselves to rule.

The real "ultra-cons" of the OP movement haven't even committed with the WwPF which should tell you something.

No, it seems to me that something else is at work here and that the Res. #4 vote was just a "sign" that the movers were looking for. Many people have mentioned NW's close vote in CA recently. I think that it's fairly certain that if he had been elected he would have not been in Tulsa. He would have been loyal to his "job."

The looseness in the WwPF's structure that you describe is probably only temporary. The whole WwPF may be only temporary as well. We simply need more time to go by before evaluating what impact this will have.

I strongly feel that the initial recruiting was done in an unethical manner. What motives lay behind that is anyone's speculation. The apparent split does weaken the UPC - but the UPC was weak at the outset as evidenced by the words in my signature line.

We've got a lot of growing up to do if we are to survive as a movement.

lovinglife 02-01-2008 10:51 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 377057)
You're not going to get many replies. you make too much sense, and it's not what most people on this site want to hear.
I love this statement

Rev 02-01-2008 10:54 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
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Originally Posted by lovinglife (Post 377103)
I love this statement
It's like preaching a short sermon. Would like to send an offering? Or I'll come by and pick it up just like Rev. Charles :toofunny

lovinglife 02-01-2008 11:07 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev (Post 377107)
It's like preaching a short sermon. Would like to send an offering? Or I'll come by and pick it up just like Rev. Charles :toofunny
:2cents:2cents its all i have right now

Rev 02-01-2008 11:09 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
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Originally Posted by lovinglife (Post 377121)
:2cents:2cents its all i have right now
I think that's more than what I got in some churches. :toofunny

Coonskinner 02-01-2008 11:40 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
A voice of reason, finally.

Furthermore, the original six set it up so that they will all be out of office in a few years.

Some power hungry control freaks. If that is their intent, they have gone about it in a pretty inept way.

Rev 02-01-2008 11:50 PM
Re: Control Freaks Running The WPF??
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coonskinner (Post 377140)
A voice of reason, finally.

Furthermore, the original six set it up so that they will all be out of office in a few years.

Some power hungry control freaks. If that is their intent, they have gone about it in a pretty inept way.
It's 11:40 and I have the whole site to my self, so I thought I'd just fill up every thread as being the last poster!

:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny


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