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Praxeas 03-04-2008 12:33 AM

Interesting Quote by Obama
 
"I will tell you that I don't believe in gay marriage, but I do think that people who are gay and lesbian should be treated with dignity and respect and that the state should not discriminate against them. So, I believe in civil unions that allow a same-sex couple to visit each other in a hospital or transfer property to each other. I don't think it should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state. If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans. That's my view. But we can have a respectful disagreement on that."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=57975

mizpeh 03-04-2008 04:48 AM

Re: Interesting Quote by Obama
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 406552)
I will tell you that I don't believe in gay marriage, but I do think that people who are gay and lesbian should be treated with dignity and respect and that the state should not discriminate against them. So, I believe in civil unions that allow a same-sex couple to visit each other in a hospital or transfer property to each other. I don't think it should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state. If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans. That's my view. But we can have a respectful disagreement on that.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=57975

Praxeas,

You had me so confused, I thought the paragraph was you talking! Please put it in quotes! I was reading along waiting to know what Obama said!

The scripture in Romans is not obscure but it is as clear as the crystal.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Pressing-On 03-04-2008 06:12 AM

Re: Interesting Quote by Obama
 
I would wonder how Obama got the impression that any scripture in the Bible is classified as "obscure".

Ronzo 03-04-2008 06:29 AM

Re: Interesting Quote by Obama
 
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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 406569)
Praxeas,

You had me so confused, I thought the paragraph was you talking! Please put it in quotes! I was reading along waiting to know what Obama said!

After reading Prax's posts throughout the years/months/etc, there's no way I'd get the impression that he was speaking his thoughts...

And the fact that the thread's title, is "Quote by Obama"... I thought it was obvious that it wasn't Prax speaking, but Obama (even without the quotes around the words)...

mizpeh 03-04-2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 406575)
After reading Prax's posts throughout the years/months/etc, there's no way I'd get the impression that he was speaking his thoughts...

And the fact that the thread's title, is "Quote by Obama"... I thought it was obvious that it wasn't Prax speaking, but Obama (even without the quotes around the words)...

I'm not the brightest bulb in the morning!

DividedThigh 03-04-2008 08:20 AM

Re: Interesting Quote by Obama
 
obscure is a word of convenience, obviously other than jesus himself the greatest teacher of the nt church was paul, nothing he said is obscure to a true believer, imho, obama is not right, aint gettin my support or vote, dt

HeavenlyOne 03-04-2008 08:40 AM

Re: Interesting Quote by Obama
 
So what does Obama really believe? Sounds like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Cindy 03-04-2008 08:41 AM

Re: Interesting Quote by Obama
 
Well if we follow his logic then all other abominations should be granted this same dignity and respect right? Murderer's, rapists, thieves, etc. And it is not very obscure at all. In fact it is very plainly stated. He must have read a different version.

HeavenlyOne 03-04-2008 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx (Post 406596)
Well if we follow his logic then all other abominations should be granted this same dignity and respect right? Murderer's, rapists, thieves, etc. And it is not very obscure at all. In fact it is very plainly stated. He must have read a different version.

Murder, rape, and stealing are against the law, so not really the same.

However, Obama should be consistent and give women who wear pants a free ride as well.



:D

Cindy 03-04-2008 08:45 AM

Re: Interesting Quote by Obama
 
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 406594)
So what does Obama really believe? Sounds like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.

I want to know where in the Sermon on the Mount Jesus said that we should treat people that work abominations against Him with dignity and respect. It must be an obscure verse.

He seems to believe whatever will help to get him elected. After this any christian that votes for him needs to read the first chapter of Romans.


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