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Esther 11-11-2008 10:24 AM

I thought They were one???
 
I noticed something in scripture this morning that I have read many, many times and never noticed. Please explain Matt 12:32 if you can.

"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neihther in this world, neither in the world to come."


I thought the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one. That being true how can you blaspheme the Son and be forgiven but not the Holy Ghost?

This seems confusing???

Timmy 11-11-2008 11:00 AM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
It was brought up in a discussion in Deep Waters, a while back.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...read.php?t=310

Not sure a good answer was found, though!

ILG 11-11-2008 11:25 AM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
I dunno.

ILG 11-11-2008 11:26 AM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
Maybe it's talking about the man verses the spirit of the man?????

Blubayou 11-11-2008 11:51 AM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
I am not a theologian, but I always thought in this case the Son of Man was speaking of the Man - Jesus - and the Holy Ghost was speaking of the Spirit of God. Therefore, those who brought charges against Jesus while He was on earth- forgiveness was available to them. But, blasphemy against the Holy Ghost - there is no forgiveness. Just my take on this scripture.

Esther 11-11-2008 01:03 PM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 628394)
It was brought up in a discussion in Deep Waters, a while back.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...read.php?t=310

Not sure a good answer was found, though!

Thanks Timmy I had not seen that thread, but it did NOT answer my question. In fact, it seems YOU brought up the same question. :)

Esther 11-11-2008 01:03 PM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 628426)
Maybe it's talking about the man verses the spirit of the man?????

But are they not one?

Esther 11-11-2008 01:04 PM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blubayou (Post 628452)
I am not a theologian, but I always thought in this case the Son of Man was speaking of the Man - Jesus - and the Holy Ghost was speaking of the Spirit of God. Therefore, those who brought charges against Jesus while He was on earth- forgiveness was available to them. But, blasphemy against the Holy Ghost - there is no forgiveness. Just my take on this scripture.

So now we can separate them from being one?

Esther 11-11-2008 01:05 PM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
Maybe someone that has access to JP can ask them over there the question and report an answer. :)

mfblume 11-11-2008 01:18 PM

Re: I thought They were one???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 628374)
I noticed something in scripture this morning that I have read many, many times and never noticed. Please explain Matt 12:32 if you can.

"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neihther in this world, neither in the world to come."


I thought the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one. That being true how can you blaspheme the Son and be forgiven but not the Holy Ghost?

This seems confusing???


Basic oneness 101. Different offices. It's the same point made when Jesus is both God and man. God is not a man.


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