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Justin 02-04-2009 08:34 AM

Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theology!
 
I've been reading about this topic for some time now, but I can't fully grasp what the core differences between a "1-stepper" and a "3-stepper".

Someone please enlighten me.

TRFrance 02-04-2009 08:43 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
Its an old issue around here. Many of us are tired of even talking about it.

But these threads will give you a solid understanding of what the differences are.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=20347
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=10349
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=14145
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=13950

Justin 02-04-2009 08:53 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
Gotcha. Thanks for the links.

Sam 02-04-2009 10:42 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 698918)
I've been reading about this topic for some time now, but I can't fully grasp what the core differences between a "1-stepper" and a "3-stepper".

Someone please enlighten me.

We've cussed and discussed this over and over and I see that you have been given some links so this post may be redundant.

As far as I know these forums are the only place we use the terms "one-stepper and three-stepper." They are some times used with descriptive words like "PCI one-stepper" and "PAJC three-stepper." This goes back to 1945 when the UPC was formed. Two organizations were merged. They were the PCI (Pentecostal Church Inc.) and the PAJC (Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ). Many (we really don't know the figures or percentage) of the PCI ministers believed that a person was justified/saved/ born again at repentance and then should get baptized in Jesus' Name as a testimony and act of obedience and as a child of God that person was also promised an experience called the Holy Ghost Baptism. Many (and again we don't know the figure or percentage) of the PAJC ministers believed a person was not justified/saved/born again until that person had repented, been baptized in Jesus' Name and had received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

So, both PCI and PAJC, or both one-steppers and three-steppers believe in Oneness, both believe in baptism in Jesus name. and both believe in the Holy Ghost Baptism. There just is not agreement as to how and when a person is actually saved or born again.

Because there was opposition among both PCI and PAJC ministers to the merger, the fundamental doctrine statement was written the way it was so those of both opinions could agree to it. Some ministers did not go along with the merger and the PAJC organization still exists today.

deltaguitar 02-04-2009 10:48 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
one-step = right

three-step = wrong

:couch

Light 02-04-2009 11:22 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 698998)
We've cussed and discussed this over and over and I see that you have been given some links so this post may be redundant.

As far as I know these forums are the only place we use the terms "one-stepper and three-stepper." They are some times used with descriptive words like "PCI one-stepper" and "PAJC three-stepper." This goes back to 1945 when the UPC was formed. Two organizations were merged. They were the PCI (Pentecostal Church Inc.) and the PAJC (Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ). Many (we really don't know the figures or percentage) of the PCI ministers believed that a person was justified/saved/ born again at repentance and then should get baptized in Jesus' Name as a testimony and act of obedience and as a child of God that person was also promised an experience called the Holy Ghost Baptism. Many (and again we don't know the figure or percentage) of the PAJC ministers believed a person was not justified/saved/born again until that person had repented, been baptized in Jesus' Name and had received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

So, both PCI and PAJC, or both one-steppers and three-steppers believe in Oneness, both believe in baptism in Jesus name. and both believe in the Holy Ghost Baptism. There just is not agreement as to how and when a person is actually saved or born again.

Because there was opposition among both PCI and PAJC ministers to the merger, the fundamental doctrine statement was written the way it was so those of both opinions could agree to it. Some ministers did not go along with the merger and the PAJC organization still exists today.

Sam you left out the most important part. One steppers believe a person can go to heaven without being baptised in Jesus name or recieving the HG.

revrandy 02-04-2009 11:26 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
One Step - Leaves folks in the Grave - Repentance only

Three Step- Offers folks a Resurrection - Believes that a person must be filled with the Holy Ghost to overcome the world...

:)

Theresa 02-04-2009 11:27 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
1 step= believe and accept Jesus in your heart as your Lord and Savior - *poof* saved

3 step = repent, baptism, infilling of the HG, evidenced by speaking in other tongues = salvation.

isnt that right?

Michael The Disciple 02-04-2009 11:30 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
Initial salvation BEGINS with repentance but is not COMPLETE without water and spirit baptism.

My version of the three step doctrine.

KWSS1976 02-04-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo
 
yep got to have those tongues even though there were people in the bible that had the holyghost long before tongues came on the scene


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