No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

Those of you that are uncomfortable in speaking of the pre-existing Sonship of Christ, how do you read Hebrews 1 - especially verse 2?

2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

He pre-existed but NOT as Son. The Son was only in existance in the Mind and PLan of God before Bethlehem.

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

Does it not state through the Son, God created the universe?

It's the language of scripture is it not?

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

The President was a community organizer in Chicago however he was NOT acting as President when he was doing that.

Thus it is with the language here the Son created all thing BECAUSE Jesus the Creator has become the Son however He was NOT the Son when He was creating.
The language is simple.

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

Jesus doesn't act as the Son he IS the Son.

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

Very well then...

Why is it that it seems many OPs appear uncomfortable saying the God created all things through His Son?

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

Because if the Son existed as a separate being from the Father before the incarnation that makes Oneness doctrine null and void.

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

No fuss here.

However the latin was 'form' in Phil 2 is en morphe which is a mask like an actor wears.:thumbsup

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

I am, of course, not asking anyone to insert terms like persons or separate beings...

Re: No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?
 

My Arian friend has showed up. Greetings.:thumbsup