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KWSS1976 04-22-2009 08:42 PM

Baptisms
 
How many baptisms are there

Ephesians 4:5 only have one baptism
Hebrews 6:2 has (baptisms)
more than one..

Sept5SavedTeen 04-22-2009 09:18 PM

Re: Baptisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 740824)
How many baptisms are there

Ephesians 4:5 only have one baptism
Hebrews 6:2 has (baptisms)
more than one..

Baptism of water, holy ghost, fire.

-Bro. Alex

Sam 04-22-2009 09:19 PM

Re: Baptisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 740824)
How many baptisms are there

Ephesians 4:5 only have one baptism
Hebrews 6:2 has (baptisms)
more than one..

baptism into the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13; Galatians 3:26-27: Ephesians 4:4-5)
baptism in water (Acts 8:36-39)
baptism in Spirit (Acts 1:5)
baptism in fire (Matthew 3:10-12)
baptism in suffering (Mark 10:38-39; Luke 12:50)

KWSS1976 04-23-2009 08:00 AM

Re: Baptisms
 
So why Ephesians 4:5 it only states on baptism?

mizpeh 04-23-2009 08:06 AM

Re: Baptisms
 
There are basically two baptisms..water and Spirit.

I believe in the epistles when the word, baptism, is used by itself it always refers to water baptism.

KWSS1976 04-23-2009 08:09 AM

Re: Baptisms
 
But it states only one baptism I to believe it is water baptism but then again it only states ONE BAPTISM..

mizpeh 04-23-2009 08:19 AM

Re: Baptisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 740889)
But it states only one baptism I to believe it is water baptism but then again it only states ONE BAPTISM..

IMO, when Paul speaks of baptism in the episitles, he is always referring to water baptism.

In the Ephesian passage you are referring to, Paul mentions Spirit baptism using other words............ 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

In 1 Cor 12:12 Paul uses baptized by one Spirit and made to drink of the Spirit. I believe in this instance also baptism refers to water baptism and made to drink refers to Spirit baptism. In this one verse Paul is saying both baptisms are necessary to someone to be "IN CHRIST" or to be part of the body of Christ.

Though we know there are two baptisms, there is not a great attempt by the writers of the epistles to make what they mean clear when they use the word, baptism, which leads me to believe that their audiences knew exactly what they were writing about. Since there has been so many conflicting teachings brought into the church since the early days, we have to struggle with the context to try to figure out what they are saying.

KWSS1976 04-23-2009 08:31 AM

Re: Baptisms
 
mizpeh this statement you made is right on..struggle key word..LOL


Since there has been so many conflicting teachings brought into the church since the early days, we have to STRUGGLE with the context to try to figure out what they are saying

Sam 04-23-2009 09:10 AM

Re: Baptisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 740887)
So why Ephesians 4:5 it only states on baptism?

in my opinion, Ehesians 4:5 is part of an exhortation to unity because we are all in the same Church/Body/Family and is saying that we have all been placed/baptized/immersed into the one Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit in the same way that 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Galatians 3:26-29 say it.

Sam 04-23-2009 09:14 AM

Re: Baptisms
 
Some people believe that 3 separate individuals somehow mysteriously form one God.

Others believe that two distinct experiences, baptism in water and baptism in Spirit, even though they may have occurred miles apart geographically and years apart chronologically somehow mysteriously form one baptism.


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