Endtime Prophecy Questions
 

Ok guys I havent got into the whole endtime prophecy thing...juts kinda went with the flow but I do have some questions. 1.Is there any scriptural evidence of salvation after the rapture and 2.When the rapture happens is there any evidence God "removes" His Spirit from the Earth entirely.I know theres lots of viewpoints on these things but I just want some open logical discussion please.

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oh boy!

I'll give you some thoughts first so every one can begin shooting.
This is based on the theory of a future rapture followed by a future tribulation.

First question about people being saved after the rapture:
--Church age is Revelation chapters 2 and 3.
--Rapture and glorified Church in Heaven is Revelation chapters 4 and 5.
--Tribulation begins in Revelation 6 and continues until Jesus returns with His church in Revelation 19.
--A group of Jews described as 144,000 with the Father's name in their foreheads and made up of 12,000 from each tribe are found in Revelation 7:1-8; 14:1-5) and a group of gentiles described as "a great multitude, of all nations and kindreds and tongues" in Revelation 6:8-9 and 7:10-17 would be what we call the "tribulation saints."

Second question about God "removing" His Spirit when He removes the church at the rapture. I assume you are referring to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-10. Some pre-trib dispensationalists teach that there is a reference here to "the antichrist" who cannot be revealed until "he who now letteth will let until he be taken away." "He who now letteth" is seen as the Holy Spirit in the Church and at the rapture the Holy Spirit will leave when the church leaves. Some teach that the "falling away" or "departure" or "apostasia" here is the departure of the church or the rapture. Will the Holy Spirit "leave" when the church leaves? Well, He can't actually leave because He is omnipresent so He will still be here in His "omnipresence" but perhaps not in his "manifest presence." However, it seems to me that if there are folks preaching the gospel and folks accepting the gospel and folks laying down their lives for the Lord, the Holy Spirit must still be active and working among, upon, and within them.

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thats what I was thinking....if the mark of the beast supposedly dooms your soul what does it matter since supposedly there is no salvation after the rapture? If there are 144,000 evangelists what are they preaching? And how are people being saved by their ministry if there is no work of the Spirit?It would be interesting to do a word search in my Strongs about 2 Thessalonians 2:1-10.

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How can God remove his Spirit FROM the earth...HE IS OMNIPRESENT ?!!!!

That is a Old Pentecostal teaching that has no Biblical support..

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yeah...didnt make sense to me either...which makes the "If you cant live for God with his spirit being here how do you expect to do it when his spirit isnt here" argument fall to pieces.Even David said "If I make my bed in hell you are there"

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:highfive:highfive

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the endtimes are a description of human history, Violence, there is no difference with how bad the world is now and how bad it was 2k years ago.

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Since I believe the rapture takes us directly to the white throne judgment without any trib afterwards or any millennium afterwards, and the white throne judgment is the final judgment for everyone, I believe there is no chance for salvation for anyone after the rapture.

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I agree with the bearded guy from Portage la Prairie, MB CANADA.

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and there are other folks here on the forum (and in the Body of Christ) who believe in various forms of preterism.

The main thing is that we love the Lord and love and respect one another and not "fight" over stuff like this.