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Thad 05-14-2007 11:13 AM

Ingersoll on the Trinity
 
“Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost the third. Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. . . .

“So, it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son God, and the Holy Ghost God, and that these three Gods make one God.

“According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction, if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar, if we add two to one, we have but one. . . .

“Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.”

-- Robert G. Ingersoll (1833-1899), "The Trinity" (from "The Foundations of Faith," The Works of Ingersoll).

LINK

Hoovie 05-14-2007 11:21 AM

“So, it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son God, and the Holy Ghost God, and that these three Gods make one God."


LOL! Just where is this declared?


It is easy to say what others declare - if it's not required to quote the same.

ZeroedIn 05-14-2007 12:45 PM

Its declared in the official doctrinal statement of many trinitarian believing organizations.

I agree it to be absurd!

revrandy 05-14-2007 12:53 PM

It would be much simpler to quote Scriture.....

There are three that bear record in Heaven.. the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost... and these three are one...

But hey... What do we know???? :hmmm...

:)

CC1 05-14-2007 12:56 PM

Who is this Ingersoll guy? I notice he has been dead for over 100 years. Is he considered a mainstream trinitarian theologan or some oddball somebody dug up to prove a point?

Steve Epley 05-14-2007 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 112848)
“Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost the third. Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. . . .

“So, it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son God, and the Holy Ghost God, and that these three Gods make one God.

“According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction, if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar, if we add two to one, we have but one. . . .

“Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.”

-- Robert G. Ingersoll (1833-1899), "The Trinity" (from "The Foundations of Faith," The Works of Ingersoll).

LINK

I think he was agnostic but correct on this.:thumbsup

Falla39 05-14-2007 01:37 PM

Very interesting site! http://loveofthetruth.org/Shows.html

Click on the "Trinity Nyet".

Falla39

chaotic_resolve 05-14-2007 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad (Post 112848)
“Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost the third. Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. . . .

“So, it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son God, and the Holy Ghost God, and that these three Gods make one God.

“According to the celestial multiplication table, once one is three, and three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction, if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar, if we add two to one, we have but one. . . .

“Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.”

-- Robert G. Ingersoll (1833-1899), "The Trinity" (from "The Foundations of Faith," The Works of Ingersoll).

LINK

Then of course, there's the doctrine of Benny Hinn . . . I've heard from a few sources that BH believes in 9 Gods. :nod

Quote:

"Each one of them is a triune being by Himself...there's nine of them" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 3rd October 1990).

"God the Father is a person separate from the Holy Ghost. Totally separate. ...Do you know that the Holy Spirit has a soul and a body separate from that of Jesus and the Father? ...God the Father then is a triune being within Himself. He's a person, He has His own Spirit, He has a soul. …A soul is my intellect. …God thinks. …separate from the Son and separate from the Holy Ghost. …God the Father is a separate individual from the Son and the Holy Ghost, who is a triune being who walks in a spirit body and He has hair…has eyes…has a mouth…has hands" (Orlando Christian Centre, Oct 13th 1990).
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen . . . the Lord our God is NINE!

:killinme

Old Paths 05-14-2007 02:16 PM

THREE GODS!

Come on you know that trinitarians believe just like us.

That's just semantics.



Hee heeeeeeeeeeeeee

Falla39 05-14-2007 02:18 PM

Ingersoll on the Trinity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falla39 (Post 113018)
Very interesting site! http://loveofthetruth.org/Shows.html

Click on the "Trinity Nyet".

Falla39

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