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The Matt 02-02-2012 01:05 PM

What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On You
 
Matthew 27:50: Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

houston 02-02-2012 01:15 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
John 3:16

Timmy 02-02-2012 01:20 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
I guess this isn't what you were looking for, but one of the most important passages in my "deconversion" is Exodus. Take it literally or figuratively, either way, it doesn't portray God in a good light. In the story of the exodus, from beginning to end, we see a God who is childish, petty, unjust, dishonest, and just plain mean. He sets everything up as an excuse to show how powerful He is, and to become famous! (Look it up -- that's what God said.) He punishes Egyptian families, repeatedly and brutally, because of what Pharaoh did. And Pharaoh would have (says the story!) said Yes, if God hadn't hardened his heart. The request was for a three day's journey into the wilderness to offer sacrifices -- not to leave forever, which was the true intent: God told Moses to mislead.

IMO. ;)

Amanah 02-02-2012 01:26 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1134988)
I guess this isn't what you were looking for, but one of the most important passages in my "deconversion" is Exodus. Take it literally or figuratively, either way, it doesn't portray God in a good light. In the story of the exodus, from beginning to end, we see a God who is childish, petty, unjust, dishonest, and just plain mean. He sets everything up as an excuse to show how powerful He is, and to become famous! (Look it up -- that's what God said.) He punishes Egyptian families, repeatedly and brutally, because of what Pharaoh did. And Pharaoh would have (says the story!) said Yes, if God hadn't hardened his heart. The request was for a three day's journey into the wilderness to offer sacrifices -- not to leave forever, which was the true intent: God told Moses to mislead.

IMO. ;)

Brings to mind the scripture: the letter kills but the Spirit brings life.

I understand what you are saying, I just recently read this passage of scripture and it's not my favorite.

NorCal 02-02-2012 01:36 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
If you think Pharaoh was the only one that had Hebrew slaves you are gravely naive.

Timmy 02-02-2012 01:58 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCal (Post 1134994)
If you think Pharaoh was the only one that had Hebrew slaves you are gravely naive.

Uh. OK. ;)

houston 02-02-2012 02:18 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCal (Post 1134994)
If you think Pharaoh was the only one that had Hebrew slaves you are gravely naive.

Relevance?

forgivenson 02-02-2012 02:24 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

I think this verse in John had one of the greatest effects on me when I was first responding to Jesus. The thought of Jesus and the Father coming to live with me was startling. Fact is....I am His temple.....although I am not always in an awareness (is that the right word?) ...of being so.
Another thing, is when Jesus asked Peter repeatedly, "Do you love me?" I often imagine Jesus standing in front of 'me'...asking 'me' "do you love me?".
There are certainly others.....I would also include the entire chapter of John 14, and much of Revelation.

The Matt 02-02-2012 03:16 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1134988)
I guess this isn't what you were looking for, but one of the most important passages in my "deconversion" is Exodus. Take it literally or figuratively, either way, it doesn't portray God in a good light. In the story of the exodus, from beginning to end, we see a God who is childish, petty, unjust, dishonest, and just plain mean. He sets everything up as an excuse to show how powerful He is, and to become famous! (Look it up -- that's what God said.) He punishes Egyptian families, repeatedly and brutally, because of what Pharaoh did. And Pharaoh would have (says the story!) said Yes, if God hadn't hardened his heart. The request was for a three day's journey into the wilderness to offer sacrifices -- not to leave forever, which was the true intent: God told Moses to mislead.

IMO. ;)

Well...think of it this way. Even when God softened his heart...didn't he come after them anyway?

Timmy 02-02-2012 03:44 PM

Re: What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Matt (Post 1135028)
Well...think of it this way. Even when God softened his heart...didn't he come after them anyway?

I don't see any softening. I see the opposite, in Ex 14:4. "And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, that he shall follow after them; and I will be honoured upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD. " And v 8. "And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued after the children of Israel: and the children of Israel went out with an high hand."


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