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Dedicated Mind 03-14-2013 02:40 PM

Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
is using Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer better than using Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in order to address feminist theologians concern of patriarchy and male bias by referring to God as male?

"God's activity in creating, in redeeming, and in sustaining is subversive of concepts of domination and subordination that have characterized theological reflection on the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."

quote from "Lift Every Voice, Constructing Christian Theologies from the Underside.

Cindy 03-14-2013 02:43 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
No

Luke 03-14-2013 02:55 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
If they do not like the titles that God gave Himself they should ask Him to change them Himself because we as mankind have no business trying to correct God!

Praxeas 03-14-2013 03:16 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1234053)
is using Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer better than using Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in order to address feminist theologians concern of patriarchy and male bias by referring to God as male?

No

imreedemed 03-14-2013 03:30 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1234053)
is using Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer better than using Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in order to address feminist theologians concern of patriarchy and male bias by referring to God as male?

NO!!! I'm not even sure there should be feminist theologians (from Paul's letters in the NT)

Dedicated Mind 03-14-2013 03:46 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke (Post 1234060)
If they do not like the titles that God gave Himself they should ask Him to change them Himself because we as mankind have no business trying to correct God!

"The New Testament and Psalms is a new version of the Bible that speaks more directly than ever before to today's social concerns, especially the move towards universal inclusivity. This revolutionary new version pushes the English language to new levels of inclusive expression. The noted scholars who produced this work address issues of gender, race and ethnicity more directly than ever before. The resulting version is one that can truly be said to speak to all people."

http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Testam...alms+inclusive

stephenroehm 03-14-2013 04:33 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
When you need more than the Death, Burial, and Resurrection to speak to people, you're saying the wrong things.

When you won't submit yourself to Jesus Christ while seeing Him crucified for your sins, but you will submit yourself to a mental image you construct based on the gender of your preference, you are practicing idolatry.

I can't believe this is a topic that is seriously being presented as a legitimate Gospel.

Galatians 1:6-8 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Galatians 1:9-10 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

Dedicated Mind 03-14-2013 05:11 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stephenroehm (Post 1234111)
When you need more than the Death, Burial, and Resurrection to speak to people, you're saying the wrong things.

When you won't submit yourself to Jesus Christ while seeing Him crucified for your sins, but you will submit yourself to a mental image you construct based on the gender of your preference, you are practicing idolatry.

I can't believe this is a topic that is seriously being presented as a legitimate Gospel.

Galatians 1:6-8 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Galatians 1:9-10 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

no one is changing the message of the gospel only the names we call God. do you really think that God is a male? Isn't the word creator more apt at describing God than Father? did christ have to be a male? do women need a male savior? can't son be called redeemer and be less offensive to gender sensitive women while preserving an apt description of the son's role? i think this language makes sense.

Cindy 03-14-2013 05:30 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1234132)
no one is changing the message of the gospel only the names we call God. do you really think that God is a male? Isn't the word creator more apt at describing God than Father? did christ have to be a male? do women need a male savior? can't son be called redeemer and be less offensive to gender sensitive women while preserving an apt description of the son's role? i think this language makes sense.

No, no, yes, no, no!!

Cindy 03-14-2013 05:35 PM

Re: Inclusive Bible Laguage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1234132)
no one is changing the message of the gospel only the names we call God. do you really think that God is a male? Isn't the word creator more apt at describing God than Father? did christ have to be a male? do women need a male savior? can't son be called redeemer and be less offensive to gender sensitive women while preserving an apt description of the son's role? i think this language makes sense.

Why do you think WE can change God's name? Gender sensitive women? Can we change God?


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