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donfriesen1 12-20-2025 02:08 PM
Necessity of background knowledge
 


Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world proclaims John Baptist - to Jews.

The caravan traveller with his goods on camels, had he heard, might have said, 'those people aren't going to be taking too many sins away. Sheep can't carry much.'

The aboriginal from the Amazon would say, 'A lamb? What's a lamb?'

Many Gentiles would say, 'What is this all about? Why does a lamb take away sins?'

The Jew of that day instantly knew the reference referred to animal sacrifice, but even they may not have necessarily have connected it with the Passover Lamb.

Christians today instantly associate it to the last Passover Lamb because of background knowledge gained over many years.

This highlights the fact that proper understanding of scripture is dependent on background knowledge.

This is a fact.




Amanah 12-20-2025 05:17 PM
Re: Necessity of background knowledge
 
All the background knowledge needed for the intended audience was available in the law and the prophets.

Evang.Benincasa 12-20-2025 08:14 PM
Re: Necessity of background knowledge
 
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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1620840)
All the background knowledge needed for the intended audience was available in the law and the prophets.
Luke 16:27-31 records the dialogue between the rich man and God. Within this discussion the rich man asks God to resurrect Lazarus from the dead and send him to the rich man's family. So, Lazarus would persuade them to repent and not end up in torments. God sums it all up with one verse, "If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead." The religiously blind Judeans had Moses and the prophets, and they still missed Jesus. The rock was cut out of the mountain Daniel 2:34-35, Daniel 2:44-45 striking the image in the feet where it is blown to the four corners of the earth. The striking stone then grows into a new mountain which engulfs the entire earth. The Word of God is throughout the world. It is accessible to everyone. If they want to know what a lamb is, and how ancient Judeans used those lambs, the Bible, the Holy Ghost leading a sincere Amazonian headhunter to the Truth of Christ.

donfriesen1 12-21-2025 09:21 AM
Re: Necessity of background knowledge
 
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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1620840)
All the background knowledge needed for the intended audience was available in the law and the prophets.
Thx for confirming my point.

John B made no reference to what you said. Anyone hearing/reading just the words of John B would not have the background knowledge, right?

But are you agreeing or disagreeing?

jediwill83 12-23-2025 10:07 AM
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John was speaking to Essene Jews and Pharisees who absolutely knew what John was referring to and who were raised from children on memorization and repetition of scripture and prophecy. John was the son of the High Priest.

donfriesen1 12-23-2025 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1620859)
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John was speaking to Essene Jews and Pharisees who absolutely knew what John was referring to and who were raised from children on memorization and repetition of scripture and prophecy.
John was the son of the High Priest.
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John was speaking to Essene Jews and Pharisees who absolutely knew what John was referring to and who were raised from children on memorization and repetition of scripture and prophecy.
Agreed. My point was, that any reading John's words not knowing the background, which most Jews would have known, would not know what he meant. Background info is sometimes vital.

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John was the son of the High Priest.
I did not know this. And since the Bible does not say this could you direct me to a historical source?

Evang.Benincasa 12-23-2025 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1 (Post 1620850)
Thx for confirming my point.

John B made no reference to what you said. Anyone hearing/reading just the words of John B would not have the background knowledge, right?

But are you agreeing or disagreeing?
Don, give this a try. :thumbsup

https://www.dalecarnegie.com/en/courses/216

donfriesen1 12-24-2025 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1620873)
Don, give this a try. :thumbsup

https://www.dalecarnegie.com/en/courses/216
I had said this to Amanah: "Thx for confirming my point. John B made no reference to what you said. Anyone hearing/reading just the words of John B would not have the background knowledge, right? But are you agreeing or disagreeing?"

Dom seems to answer for her.

Does Amanah appear unable to answer for herself, needing someone to do it for her? Perhaps someone like Dom, who views themself as the self appointed cop/judge of AFF, seeing a need to intervene?

Evang.Benincasa 12-24-2025 04:00 PM
Re: Necessity of background knowledge
 
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1 (Post 1620876)
I had said this to Amanah: "Thx for confirming my point. John B made no reference to what you said. Anyone hearing/reading just the words of John B would not have the background knowledge, right? But are you agreeing or disagreeing?"

Dom seems to answer for her.

Does Amanah appear unable to answer for herself, needing someone to do it for her? Perhaps someone like Dom, who views themself as the self appointed cop/judge of AFF, seeing a need to intervene?
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