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ChicagoPastor 08-23-2007 09:06 AM

Question for UPC ministers concerning the "New Church Order"
 
Though it has been talked about on the forum, in case someone doesn't know Bishop Phillips, Wendell Hutchins, and Johnathon Suber have formed a fellowship called "New Church Order". They now state to have over 800 ministers affiliated with them
On the website site it says that the NCO is a fellowship not a denomination and therefore you don't have to leave your current denomination or organization to be a part of the NCO.

My question is this, has anyone heard or know what the UPC would say if their ministers were to join the NCO fellowship? Can the UPC prevent it's ministers from joining or fellowshipping with the NCO?

just curious.

revrandy 08-23-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 222858)
Though it has been talked about on the forum, in case someone doesn't know Bishop Phillips, Wendell Hutchins, and Johnathon Suber have formed a fellowship called "New Church Order". They now state to have over 800 ministers affiliated with them
On the website site it says that the NCO is a fellowship not a denomination and therefore you don't have to leave your current denomination or organization to be a part of the NCO.

My question is this, has anyone heard or know what the UPC would say if their ministers were to join the NCO fellowship? Can the UPC prevent it's ministers from joining or fellowshipping with the NCO?

just curious.

I think some already have... this has been discussed quiet a bit on here... check for some previous threads..

Amos 08-23-2007 09:24 AM

Why would a UPC preacher want to affiliate with people who swallow whole both the divine flesh doctrine and Rowe's Adam doctrine?

I think I know the answer, but it grieves me.

ChicagoPastor 08-23-2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 222866)
I think some already have... this has been discussed quiet a bit on here... check for some previous threads..

I haven't seen where it was discussed about UPC ministers joing the NCO and also maintaining their affiliation with the UPC.

Do you remember the thread?

SDG 08-23-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 222881)
I haven't seen where it was discussed about UPC ministers joing the NCO and also maintaining their affiliation with the UPC.

Do you remember the thread?

We discussed this here, CP:

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=6423

SDG 08-23-2007 10:01 AM

It is my belief that Resolution 3 seeks to solidify a district board's power to make it hard on those who fellowship outside the org.

SDG 08-23-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Amos (Post 222880)
Why would a UPC preacher want to affiliate with people who swallow whole both the divine flesh doctrine and Rowe's Adam doctrine?

I think I know the answer, but it grieves me.

The NCO does not endorse these doctrines ... and my obfuscating friend knows this ... The NCO has partnered with over 170 Oneness organizations under the AWCF umbrella ... some ranging from Sabbatarians, Preterists to the UltraCon flavor.

Amos 08-23-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 222914)
The NCO does not endorse these doctrines ... and my obfuscating friend knows this ... The NCO has partnered with over 170 Oneness organizations under the AWCF umbrella ... some ranging from Sabbatarians, Preterists to the UltraCon flavor.


No obfuscation here.

They are in fellowship with false doctrine, plain and simple, and it is false doctrine of the heretical variety.

The Closer 08-23-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amos (Post 222927)
No obfuscation here.

They are in fellowship with false doctrine, plain and simple, and it is false doctrine of the heretical variety.

Personally I did not expect anything different. I am not surprised at the bolded fact, as a matter of fact it is expected. But they are so very progressive, Yeah, Right.

Joseph 08-23-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 222914)
The NCO does not endorse these doctrines ... and my obfuscating friend knows this ... The NCO has partnered with over 170 Oneness organizations under the AWCF umbrella ... some ranging from Sabbatarians, Preterists to the UltraCon flavor.

Are there UC's in fellowship with the AWCF. I would think that their fellowshipping this group would negate their being UC's.


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