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Forum: The Music Room 11-14-2019, 09:56 AM
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This Is How I Fight-Upper Room

Upper Room

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Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-17-2019, 06:05 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

TG,

Follow me on this.

1 John 4:12



How could they in light of this?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-16-2019, 09:14 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

You said

Therefore, when Paul says all things were made by the Son he is NOT saying the Son - the HUMAN BORN OF MARY - was around in prehistory AS THE SON. He is rather saying this Man from...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-16-2019, 06:41 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Of course. The Logos is personal in the OT as well as the new.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-16-2019, 06:03 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Since Adam was made in the image of God, yes God had his distinct image. His image looked like the angels. Thats why he said to them:


Let us make man after our image and likeness.

The same...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-16-2019, 04:14 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Col. 2:9

For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead BODILY.

This is the same way it was in the OT.

God was totally invisible as to his omnipresence yet had a bodily (but spiritual)...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-16-2019, 03:57 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Thats why I teach when Paul says the Son is the Express image of his person I point out who the Son was existing AS. The image of the invisible God.



And yet Paul says TWICE God made all things...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 02:29 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Dom,

Believe me. If I thought it was just you and me having discussions I would have been gone long ago. You would say the same to me. So yes it is important to me to know if others are seeing my...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 02:21 PM
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Re: Most complex explanation of the Godhead ever!

Why not start a thread explaining this. I have never heard it taught at any time. I will be waiting.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 02:15 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

If you overcome and endure to the end you will get one.



Celestial means heavenly. Saints will one day put on a BODY FROM HEAVEN.

Some might call it a space (heavenly, celestial)...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 02:07 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

This is I believe generally speaking the best explanation I know. Jesus at times spoke from his perspective as the Father sometimes as the Son. The New Testament scriptures seem to be that way.
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Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 01:49 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Well the reason why I say the Son existed before his flesh is very straight forward.

Jesus said it.

John 3:13

And no man has ascended into Heaven save he who came down from Heaven even the...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 01:19 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

And the things you said I agree with. That does not mean I think you are teaching "everything" excellent. What you have confessed to in the bolded is dynamite! It is a greater doctrine than 90% of...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 01:05 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Well then I guess I need to leave the UPCI Church I attend and look for something else?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-14-2019, 12:57 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Because you dont understand what I am saying does not make it wrong.

When John says the Word was with God he is making a distinction between two things. The Word and God.

As I have said...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 10:28 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Esais said this on the Most Complex Thread Post 42.



Very excellent.:highfive
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 10:12 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Note post 97 by Esais in the Most Complex Thread.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness View Post
Sorry but the quotes of this book are not accurate oneness doctrine.
1. The book says...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 10:05 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Again Esaias does a great job teaching Logos in post 146 of the Most Complex Thread.


I dont know that I could say it any better.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 09:59 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

I am quoted in post 115 in the Most Complex thread by Esais say this.


After quoting that Esais said:
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 09:49 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

True his eternal life possessed the Logos in the beginning.

Proverbs 8:22-25



The visible was with the invisible. Two modes of being simultaneously.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 09:39 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Exactly wrong.

Who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

In the beginning was the Logos and the Logos was with God and the Logos WAS GOD.

The form was as much...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 09:33 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Because if God is the Logos it is even more clear Oneness is true. I saw in a Trinitarian writing where it was said if it were God was the Logos it would prove Sabellianism.

God HIMSELF.....was...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 06:46 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Dom



John 1:2

The same was in the beginning WITH GOD.

See?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 06:41 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Part 2

The Apostles understood the image of the invisible God more fully than most Oneness Pentecostals today. They have been taught the Son only refers to Jesus in flesh. While this is somewhat...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 10-13-2019, 05:53 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Do I separate the Logos from God? No more than the Apostle John did.

John 1:1-2

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. The same was in the beginning with...
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