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Forum: Fellowship Hall 02-24-2012, 09:37 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 8,357
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Interesting Article: The Marks of a Cult

This is HUGE! The part I highlighted in red is what I'm currently dealing with, having left after 26 years.
Forum: The Cry Room 02-23-2012, 08:31 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 13,922
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Is Bert the Spammer gone?

DANG IT! I missed all the fun. I really could have used some of his wise counsel too.
Forum: The Cry Room 02-23-2012, 07:38 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 18,909
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: They Are Coming To Earth Soon

WOW! Sorry I've been away for a few days. Looks like I missed a lot of fun. :(
Forum: Fellowship Hall 02-17-2012, 01:44 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 4,714
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Evidence that Apostolic Truth Reached Britain

My point is that you can't say "Apostolic Truth Reached..." if you're only talking about a piece of it. OP preachers have been known to trumpet that the gates of hell did not prevail against the...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 02-17-2012, 09:27 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 4,714
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Evidence that Apostolic Truth Reached Britain

So did they speak in tongues as well? Was their soteriology the same as the three-step doctrine of today's OP? This article only addresses what appears to be a strain of Sabellian Modalism.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 02-06-2012, 11:01 AM
Replies: 113
Views: 10,373
Posted By Le Penseur
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-25-2012, 09:29 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,273
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: The change man

That's funny stuff right thar! :lol
Forum: Political Talk 01-19-2012, 10:43 AM
Replies: 158
Views: 15,953
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: I Can't Stand Romney.

I'm the same way. I don't like Romney, but can't quite put my finger on why (other than he is a social liberal). I think it might have something to do with his Used Car Salesman / TV Preacher persona.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-18-2012, 02:14 PM
Replies: 304
Views: 29,062
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Want to help me pick a new religion?

Ah... someone who gets how I've felt for such a long time. I feel for you T2W, I really do.

I recently left the Apostolic/OP movement altogether, as I could no longer in good conscience support a...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-18-2012, 01:53 PM
Replies: 304
Views: 29,062
Posted By Le Penseur
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-13-2012, 11:06 AM
Replies: 106
Views: 11,839
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Deathbed Salvation

You are using a common fallacy here in regards to the concept of believing on Jesus. It's common in OP circles because OP have made it so that there is a great deal of effort required for salvation...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-10-2012, 03:08 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 11,839
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Deathbed Salvation

Let me address a few red herrings here:

1 - Jesus Christ IS God's plan of salvation. God's "plan of salvation" is not a how or what, it's a WHO. Jesus is the Lamb of God slain from the foundation...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-10-2012, 02:02 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 11,839
Posted By Le Penseur
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-10-2012, 01:56 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 11,839
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Deathbed Salvation

Agreed. What premise is flawed?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-10-2012, 01:04 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 11,839
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Deathbed Salvation

That's a cop out - something to fall back on when it doesn't make sense according to our understanding. This is about the only response that I or anyone else in the OP movement could ever provide...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-10-2012, 12:42 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 11,839
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: Deathbed Salvation

Amen! And thank you!

His expression of faith and trust in Christ led to his salvation, and it's the same for us. I'm in agreement with your statements in the first paragraph - it's not fair - at...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-30-2011, 08:01 AM
Replies: 142
Views: 18,225
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: The [Apostolic] Prosperity Gospel

A case study in emotional and spiritual abuse!
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-30-2011, 07:47 AM
Replies: 142
Views: 18,225
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: The [Apostolic] Prosperity Gospel

Good point! :santathumb
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-30-2011, 07:46 AM
Replies: 142
Views: 18,225
Posted By Le Penseur
Re: The [Apostolic] Prosperity Gospel

Sorry, bro. I was going to respond several times, but each time I was too angry to do so. I've sat through many of these sermons and have even been sucked into the emotion that goes with it. The...
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