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Forum: Deep Waters Yesterday, 11:03 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I have also seen people being healed in the name of Jesus by the prayers of Trinitarians. Experiences are there because God is merciful and responds to faith, but it doesn't make the doctrine that it...
Forum: Deep Waters Yesterday, 11:01 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I stayed in the context, you went out of it to give it your own application. At the end, all doctrinal discussion comes down to hermeneutics principles, as usual. You have a preconceived bias. You...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 08-06-2022, 07:06 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: Inflation and the Fall of the Roman Empire

Oh wow, I didn't know that actually happened. Good to know. Thanks for bringing it up.

Regarding the part of your response I highlighted, I was thinking more of an scenario like this:
Forum: Fellowship Hall 08-03-2022, 10:42 PM
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Views: 995
Posted By coksiw
Re: Inflation and the Fall of the Roman Empire

I have the feeling that in a situation like that, the Govt will prohibit anybody from selling or buying gold but only sell to them "for the cause". Or worse, they could force an exchange rate for...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 08-02-2022, 10:41 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 995
Posted By coksiw
Re: Inflation and the Fall of the Roman Empire

Thanks for sharing this article. It was very interesting. European countries, Russia, and China stacking up gold are sending the clear message that when the fiat currency fails, gold will play an...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-28-2022, 10:09 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I would absolutely reject any offering giving to me in concept of "tithe". Absolutely. Because I know what they are coming from: a wrong teaching in their head.
Forum: Deep Waters 07-28-2022, 09:57 PM
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Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

What I meant was that tithe does not set any limit, but it sets the minimum, and that's how preachers preach it in most churches, as the minimum. The tele-evangelists say if you send them some...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-28-2022, 09:52 PM
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Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Nope, 100% free will offering. In part directly giving to me from the collected offering, in part from non-tithe funds.
Forum: Deep Waters 07-28-2022, 01:37 PM
Replies: 242
Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

LOL, I never said that. If I ever mentioned it is to show you how the application of Malachi is so ridiculously wrong.

100% agree


LOL, you must be so out of touch with reality.


OK,...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-27-2022, 11:06 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

The context. Let's see what group is comparing himself with:

1Co 9:1, 5, 12 KJV - (1) Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord? ......
Forum: Deep Waters 07-26-2022, 07:00 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Can't wait to hear your story :)
Forum: Deep Waters 07-26-2022, 11:28 AM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

The weirdest excuse I've seen is "tithing is also a way to prevent the saints from taking advantage of the pastor". That's a very hilariously twisted idea.

I have personally started two...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-25-2022, 09:25 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Forum: Deep Waters 07-25-2022, 05:15 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

You can practice it yourself if you want, but God did not command you to do it. It becomes a problem for you when you invalidate God's actual commandments in order to fulfill your self-imposed tax....
Forum: Deep Waters 07-25-2022, 05:09 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I believe Blume is independent. You can't be preterist of any kind (full, partial, in between) and be UPCI or WPF. IIRC, Blume is partial preterist.
Forum: Deep Waters 07-25-2022, 01:29 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I think there is a lot of misunderstanding as result of word meaning changes over the years.

Apostles (or evangelists), because of their traveling planting churches, do need support. It makes a...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-25-2022, 01:22 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

...except when the practice hinders God's commandments. Here is an example of man-made commandments that they also attempted to make it a Bible doctrine but ended up invalidating God's commandments....
Forum: Deep Waters 07-24-2022, 03:10 PM
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Man, it is well documented that tithing of all income in order to support the ministry is a post apostolic development, which coincidentally happened during the institutionalization of the doctrine...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-24-2022, 02:59 PM
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Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Now gold and silver exchange for good is being categorized "bartering". Here we go again with changing the semantics assumed in the thread by abstracting it out in order to win an argument.

This...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-24-2022, 09:00 AM
Replies: 242
Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Obviously! Currency was of gold and silver by the weight! Whether was stamped or not it doesn't matter to the point!
Forum: Deep Waters 07-24-2022, 08:56 AM
Replies: 242
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Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I think you don't get it either. We are not against giving. And you keep trying to play it down.

You are teaching a false doctrine that has negative consequences against the congregation, even if...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-24-2022, 08:51 AM
Replies: 242
Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

You guys need to learn some logic. You do not know that bartering in Biblical times was greater in volume than exchange of silver and gold by weight as the currency system.
If frequency in the bible...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-23-2022, 07:40 PM
Replies: 242
Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I'm not taking about how you teaching it in your congregation. That's not my business. I'm talking about what you have said in this thread.

You started it with a application connection between...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-23-2022, 06:45 PM
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Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

I believe I understand your point, and what I keep saying is that your teaching is false logic. It is very clear that your justification for using money for tithing nowadays instead of produce is...
Forum: Deep Waters 07-23-2022, 03:14 PM
Replies: 242
Views: 13,174
Posted By coksiw
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

You keep accusing me of "stubbornness" using phrases like "open your eyes", "you are so set", "missing the forest for the trees", "tackling a million strawmen". Why not instead focus on discussing...
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