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Forum: Deep Waters 09-07-2022, 11:12 AM
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Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Only because there are laws in the OT that command us not to worship idols, beginning in Exodus 20, in the Ten Commandments.

Otherwise, where there is no law, sin is not imputed (Romans 4:15,...
Forum: Deep Waters 09-07-2022, 11:07 AM
Replies: 404
Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Brother, I know you know the Scriptures well, so I won't belabor the point, but only say as follows:

Paul's comparison was to those "who are employed in the temple service [and] get their food...
Forum: Deep Waters 09-07-2022, 10:35 AM
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Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Like mortgage payments, and vehicle loans, and vacations, and etc.? See, since you make the claim Paul means more than just food, where do you draw the line? And just because you draw the line at a...
Forum: Deep Waters 09-07-2022, 09:56 AM
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Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Could be you're right. But then again, part of the idea of human nature being wicked means that, since you are human, your nature is wicked, too, and wickedness doesn't just act out to abuse,...
Forum: Deep Waters 09-07-2022, 09:44 AM
Replies: 404
Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Correct, over 1 Corinthians 9.

Brother, just because in one instance and context (1 Cor. 9), the Scriptures only speak of food as an offering, doesn't mean that money is not mentioned as given in...
Forum: Deep Waters 08-31-2022, 02:29 AM
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Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

(...continued)



One such example was the people of Thessalonica:

1 Thessalonians 1:9 (ESV),

9 For they themselves report concerning us the kind of reception we had among you...
Forum: Deep Waters 08-31-2022, 02:28 AM
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Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

And?



Yes, it matters what the wages are, because the words of the Apostle, as given to us by God as inspired Holy Scripture, have their intended meaning. The onus is upon us to correctly...
Forum: Deep Waters 08-28-2022, 03:51 AM
Replies: 404
Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

The hang-up is whether the Word is being rightly divided or not. In 1 Corinthians 9, Paul makes the case that soldiers don't go to war on their own wages (same Greek word as used in 2 Corinthians...
Forum: Deep Waters 08-28-2022, 01:01 AM
Replies: 404
Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Brother, take a look at the Greek words for "robbed" and "wages".

Robbed means "to plunder, as in spoils of war", and wages comes from two Greek terms that mean "meat" and "to purchase". Later,...
Forum: Deep Waters 08-28-2022, 12:40 AM
Replies: 404
Views: 21,695
Posted By votivesoul
Re: History of Tithes in the Church

Let it be remembered, that the same Emissary of the Gospel who wrote 1 Corinthians 9, later on, to the same exact church, wrote the following:

2 Corinthians 12:14 (ESV),



Paul wanted nothing...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-14-2022, 09:32 PM
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Views: 1,386
Posted By votivesoul
Exodus Institute

For the home-schoolers and those considering home-schooling their children, a resource:

https://www.thinkexodus.org/

About:
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-10-2022, 03:21 AM
Replies: 547
Views: 108,831
Posted By votivesoul
Re: What Are You Reading Currently, 2.0

I finished the Didache, Jubilees and How to Do the Work.

I am now reading Trees and Kings: A Comparative Analysis of Tree Imagery in Israel's Prophetic Tradition and the Ancient Near East by...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-10-2022, 02:59 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 6,333
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Should we still observe the sabbath?

Brother, there is no method of interpretation here.

In Genesis 26:5, the Hebrew word for "laws" is torah. I gave you the link so you could see for yourself. You are confused, or misinformed. The...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-10-2022, 02:49 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 6,333
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Should we still observe the sabbath?

Brother, why double-down? If the word "sabbath" isn't in a verse, then it isn't there. End of story. Just because translators have used the word "rest" to translate into English several different...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-09-2022, 12:26 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 6,333
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Should we still observe the sabbath?

Not true:

Genesis 26:4-5 (ESV),



Abraham kept God's "laws". And what are those laws of God that Abraham kept?

In a word: תּוֹרָה - torah
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-09-2022, 12:10 AM
Replies: 42
Poll: Roe v Wade?
Views: 1,879
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Roe v Wade?

Only 1 of them, apparently. They like the other 9 just fine.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-09-2022, 12:09 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 6,333
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Should we still observe the sabbath?

A note about the verses quoted above:

The Hebrew word שַׁבָּת - shabbath is not found in Isaiah 28:11-12.

There are two Hebrew words translated "rest" in Isaiah 28:12.

The first is: מְנוּחָה...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 07-08-2022, 11:52 PM
Replies: 42
Poll: Roe v Wade?
Views: 1,879
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Roe v Wade?

God has not authorized the murder of unborn children in the womb.

"You shall not commit murder" is an everlasting commandment.

Therefore, any law attempting to contravene what God has...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-29-2022, 09:34 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,697
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Seeking Andrew Urshan information

Pretty sure that was a descendant, perhaps Joel? EB and Mike Blume had a thread about it.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-29-2022, 12:46 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,697
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Seeking Andrew Urshan information

From the book (p. 239)



There is an attached footnote:

Urshan, The Life Story of Andrew bar David Urshan, 139-141.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-29-2022, 12:35 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,697
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Seeking Andrew Urshan information

Try Thinking in the Spirit: Theologies of the Early Pentecostal Movement by Douglas Jacobsen. Chapter 4 is called "Oneness Options" and covers Andrew Urshan at length.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-25-2022, 12:42 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,564
Posted By votivesoul
Re: 40 stripes???

You guys are confusing a cat of nine tails with a roman flagrum.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-23-2022, 02:42 PM
Replies: 42
Poll: Roe v Wade?
Views: 1,879
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Roe v Wade?

Today is the day!
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-21-2022, 10:54 PM
Replies: 1,132
Views: 186,266
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Who was Harry Morse ?

Not sure, and the wife doesn't remember it very well.

But I did find this:

https://ministryrevealed.com/14-years-tribulation

It appears to be based on a Hebrew letter gematria, and a reading...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 06-17-2022, 09:37 PM
Replies: 1,132
Views: 186,266
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Who was Harry Morse ?

My wife attended Apostolic Bible Institute, the college S. G. Norris founded just outside of St. Paul, MN, and was a member of the church there, too, before we were married, back in 2005 and 2006,...
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