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Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 03:38 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

The rock is a type and symbol. Out of the rock came water which is life.

He is their Father because he bought them, made and established them.

All of the temple is also a type and symbol of...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 02:13 PM
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Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

I can see your point in saying that. It is not that I do not understand admitting that Jesus is the Father. Most I know equate the term Father specifically with God. I am just trying to beleaguere...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 01:41 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

God didn't become man. The Word became flesh.
The Word is a distinct manifestation of God yet the Word was God
The Father is a distinct manifestation of God yet the Father is God
Jesus is a...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 01:21 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

In seeing Jesus the man you would not see the Father. Hearing his words and seeing his works lets you know that supernatural activity was taking place.

Mark 2

1 And again he entered into...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 12:55 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 12:53 PM
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Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

The fact that you said All these arguments are really pointless". I just believe that to many are so caught up in trying to prove the oneness that they fear any distinctions will give proof to the...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 12:38 PM
Replies: 1,036
Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Thank you for giving the respect I will do the same. Just because you make that statement, "By these words that you typed it is clear you are a trinitarian.", does not make it true. Have you read my...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 03:19 AM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Formerly we were heirs of Adam receiving the penalty of sin which is death. We are now co heirs with Christ receiving life through him. Also heirs of God receiving all the promises of God.


With...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 02:43 AM
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Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Paul was fully aware of the distinctions and the purpose for each distinction. The understanding of Jesus in his humanity being the firstfruits of the saints. We are heirs as children of God. ...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 02:02 AM
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Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

I agree with you Jesus is having him see beyond his human existence and equating himself with the divine nature.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 01:37 AM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

I would venture to say He had the feeling of our infirmity of being God forsaken because of the sin that separates man from God. At this point he was suffering from being the propitiation or...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 01:09 AM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

This was the problem of the late second and into the third century when they couldn't comprehend the unity as well as the distinctions and changed the monotheistic understanding of God into a...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 01:00 AM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Jesus the man had to be fully human in order to be the redeemer. Having body soul and spirit which was uniquely created and united with God. He had to have the potential to sin and disobey for him...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 12:31 AM
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Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Many of our illustrations are very difficult to describe and define God who is not a composite being. We cannot compartmentalize God into sections. The sun, the Ray, the light, the beam, the heat...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-04-2015, 12:11 AM
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Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Maybe I'll learn how to use these tools a little better with time. Some of you are experts able to put several quotes and dissect them. I am just a novice at this.

Very good explanation I might...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-03-2015, 10:40 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

There is no one having the understanding that Jesus is not all God. The question relates to the term Father. Jesus is not the Father He is the Son.

2Co 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 01-03-2015, 12:46 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Could our understanding be that we try to equate God=Father when in fact Father is God in action. Only God= God and Father is a manifestation of one aspect of God as we see Him. The term father is a...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-31-2014, 04:59 PM
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Views: 68,116
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Jesus is the name given to the Son of God. This name embodies the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form.

Colossians 2.9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Yet Paul in...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-30-2014, 09:15 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

Sometimes we try to prove our oneness to the point that we eliminate the distinctions. We mesh the three into one and the purpose that each one has. This is allowing the Trinitarian to hijack...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-30-2014, 08:07 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

I Don't think it's rejecting that Jesus is both Father and Son. It is that Jesus is the son in whom the Father dwelt. That is why Jesus could say;

John 14. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-30-2014, 03:46 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

There are times we repeat phrases but fail to grasp the concept. I am fully oneness and understand the idea of a distinction of God in his manifestations, but never a distinction in God.

The...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 12-30-2014, 03:29 PM
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Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

I haven't been on this forum for about three years and found this question quite interesting. Before I read on I will give you my honest answer then I will continue reading the posts. I am not even...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 05-17-2009, 04:17 AM
Replies: 150
Views: 13,426
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: Breaking news

All you have to do is point it out so that I may clarify

I never get an answer though

As I stated before I am not here to prove either side just what scripture clearly states. Then jump into...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 05-16-2009, 09:42 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,932
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: When were the angels created?

Just a few more verses about angels


Psa 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Psa 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 05-16-2009, 06:07 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,932
Posted By Pastor DTSalaz
Re: When were the angels created?

Here is what is said is depiction of Lucifer in a judgment on king of Tyrus.

Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou...
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