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Forum: Marriage Matters 09-06-2017, 11:18 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

None of our elders are licensed:

E. This fellowship reserves the right to function as a religious network of Christian believers without government intervention and regulation. Since we receive...
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-06-2017, 11:16 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

The point is, are such arrangements "illegal" or just "not legal"? There is a difference.
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-06-2017, 11:05 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

In the name of religious liberty, the Quakers serve as an excellent "example".

Here's a non-Quaker couple's story. They are liberty minded conservatives:

How Do I Get Married Without A...
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-06-2017, 11:00 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Pretty much.

If a couple wants the government benefits of marriage, they need to file their marriage with the government. If they are not interested in those benefits, they are not required to...
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-01-2017, 08:50 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Unlike many libertarian minded liberals and conservatives, I do not advocate abolishing civil marriage. I see it as a government program for couples who wish to receive various government benefits. ...
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-01-2017, 08:46 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Here's another article of interest:


Libertarian News
A libertarian news aggregation service.

Marriage Licenses Are A Racist Crime Against Humanity...
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-01-2017, 08:34 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

This might be of interest:

LewRockwell.comThe Racist Origins of Government Marriage in America
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-racist-origins-of-government-marriage-in-america/

Ryan...
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-01-2017, 07:59 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Is there a law that prohibits an Quaker elder or Christian minister from performing covenant marriages & commitment ceremonies? If there isn't, what ordinance of man is being broken?
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-01-2017, 07:56 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

For some, this is an issue of human liberty. For example, this rather conservative couple chose to draft their own marriage contract and were married outside of civil marriage: ...
Forum: Marriage Matters 09-01-2017, 07:56 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

One can say that it doesn't compromise one's own faith. Because interpretations of the Bible differ.

For example, there is the way Quakers view swearing, oaths, and testimony...

Quakers do...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 08:42 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Let's say that a man and woman are Quakers, or members of a house church. And a Quaker or house church elder performs a covenant marriage for them. What law of the land was broken?
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 08:36 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Quakers have been performing unregistered marriages for over 200 years. Quakers, house churches, and many independent churches will gladly perform them even today. And guess what? Because these...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 08:24 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

You are correct, if a minister is licensed with the state, some states prohibit them from marrying a couple that haven't filled for a marriage license.

You see, the licensing never ends.

But...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 03:21 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

I'm only explaining why you're absolutely right in one sense, but wrong in another sense.



It's more complicated than that. First, in Judaism, it was typically expected if the bride still...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 11:51 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

I was just surfing for a few minutes on this topic and I found this interesting article from WorldNetDaily:

Stay single, young man!
http://www.wnd.com/2005/04/29779/
Vox Day

Marriage, as...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 11:02 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

In the early church marriages were also established by couples who privately committed to one another, even if alone behind a barn. These couples didn't go to the church to have their union...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 10:46 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

You're right.

In Paul's day, among the Jews a divorce was typically a "writ of divorcement", or "get". It was a written decree written and issued by the husband terminating the marriage. It...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-31-2017, 10:27 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

If a couple has all necessary powers of attorney, wills, and cohabitation agreements in place, the only things a "civil marriage" can offer is the ability to file taxes jointly as married for tax...
Forum: Marriage Matters 08-29-2017, 03:11 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Sorry if I misunderstood you. I thought that was what you meant when you said,
Forum: Marriage Matters 03-28-2017, 10:57 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Here is a more formal example of a Quaker style wedding (no preacher or officiant):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=483h79KAdCI
Forum: Marriage Matters 03-28-2017, 10:54 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Here is a video of an informal Quaker wedding (Quaker weddings do not have an officiant or preacher):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ae8fmy4oGg
Forum: Marriage Matters 03-28-2017, 10:49 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

Many churches and fellowships (both liberal and conservative, Esaias) today offer Commitment Ceremonies for couples that do not desire to get a Civil Marriage. The elders in our fellowship don't...
Forum: Marriage Matters 03-28-2017, 09:25 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

I don't mind being corrected. I've researched the issue and know all about the Ketubah. However, my point is, it isn't in Scripture. If it is, could you provide it?

P.S.

Most Democrats are...
Forum: Marriage Matters 03-27-2017, 04:27 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 21,189
Posted By Aquila
Re: Marriage.

There is no stipulated contract or procedure for marriage anywhere in Scripture.
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