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Originally Posted by Socialite
I've never agreed with OSAS, yet this is about the 20th time you've tried to label me that way. Your black and white (yes, binary) thinking is hindering you in this discussion.
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I can't help you argue out both sides.
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Faithfulness = continuing to believe, trust, rely on... and yes continuing to obey God.
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You can't be believing while sinning. your works are of the flesh not by faith in walking after the Spirit.
If faithfulness not perfection keeps us in covenant(right standing) per you
and self righteousness is that I believe I am in right standing toward God justified/considered right by following the Spirit per you....
uhhhh LOL!
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But people led of the Spirit, that are new creation, that are alive to Christ... they will obey.
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Being led of the Spirit does not mean you are obeying. The Spirit leading/compelling you out of sin is not a position of righteousness but leading to do righteousness. Being ALIVE TO is to DO his will. To not be alive TO is to do the flesh's WILL! In the end your statement should be is THEY ARE OBEYING not THEY WILL OBEY! LED OF is present action realized. Being alive TO is a present action. Which = I am obeying.