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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder
Hello Bishopnl, I think that we've crossed lines, possibly you havn't understood my points in post one. So to reply to your first comment, they wen't speaking 16 dialects but approximately 12 languages and 4 dialects of sopme of those languages.
Secondly, the standard pentecostal position on the 120 is that they comprised the entire Christian Church at the time of Acts 1, this then expanded to 3,120 at Acts 2. My point in rebuttal is that as not every Christian was a Galilean, therefore the number 120 could not have comprised the entire Christian Church, and I'm right as they at that time numberd 500 people ( 1st Corinthians 15:5-8) at the minimum from all over the land including non-Galileans.
Then I thirdly made the point that according to Acts 2:7 all of the tongues speakers were Galileans, therefore logically as the Church included non-Galileans, and yet Oneness Pentecsotals also claim that 120 spoke in tongues at Pentecost, this number being the entire Church, you have a contradiction from a Oneness perspective.
This was why i raised this question in post one.
Rob |
I'm not sure where you are getting the 4 dialects and 12 languages thing. Do you have source information for that? I'm not saying you're wrong, only that I'd like to know where you got that information from.
The 16 different cultures/countries mentioned:
Parthi
Media or Madai
Elam
Mesopatamia
Judea
Cappadocia
Pontus
Asia
Phrygia
Pamphylia
Egypt
Parts of Libya (near Cyrene)
Rome
Its true that some of those places probably spoke Persian, just different dialects. But every language mentioned is either a language or a distinct dialect of a language such as Persian or Greek (which are not listed). If, in fact, you are going to say that places like Pontus, Cappadocia, Phrygia and Pamphylia are just different dialects of Asian, commentators (such as Albert Barnes) say that the Asia referenced by the onlookers was most likely another part of Asia farther west than these.
I don't have time to address any more right at the moment. Maybe later.