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Old 05-11-2007, 04:43 AM
Iron_Bladder
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Originally Posted by OGIA View Post
Acts 1
15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
16 Men and brethren...



So Ogia how would you explain the double use of the pronoun “us” at Acts 1:22?: "Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be a ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection." (Acts 1:22, KJV). Because this pronoun ‘us’ which is here used twice cannot possibly refer to the 120 disciples who’re mentioned seven verses earlier (Acts 1:15), because ‘us’ implies specifically the 11 apostles who were choosing another man (Acts 1:21) to join the office of the 12 apostles, and yet the company of 120 comprised both men and also women. The specific use of the word ‘men’ in the plural at Acts 1:21, negates the possibility that women were active in replacing Judas.

This is why at Acts 1:20 (KJV) we read; “For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.” The NIV here reads; ‘May another take his place of leadership.’ Now this emphasis upon leadership must imply the leadership of the 12 apostles within the Church, and it’s a fatuous argument to reason as you have Ogia that every one of the 120 men and women were also leaders in the Church together with the 12 apostles, for the 120 wern't leaders; some were women who wern't allowed to hold leadership in the Church.

So Judas’ replacement was here being chosen at Acts 1:20-26 by 11 men and not by 120 men and women. The chosen person was expecting to join the 11 apostles and not to become one of 120 leaders in the Church! And because no women ever had a place of leadership in the Church, men were here choosing another man to replace Judas.
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