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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder
There is absolutely nothing in John 10:30 which points to Jesus being God. |
You just contradicted yourself. You said that by putting himself grammatically before Father it made him EQUAL to God.
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Secondly to put your name before that of someone else in jewish culture implies equality with them.
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Again, you are just repeating what you have been asserting. If that is all can do is repeat and not answer or back up your assertions then you are just wasting our time here. I ask you again, PROVE that putting your name before someone else in Jewish culture implies equality. Prove it. just saying it over and over and over does not prove it. That's called Argumentum ad Nauseum.
Second Jesus did not use his name. He said "I".
Third, you just contradicted yourself. On the one hand you argue this verse does NOT show Jesus is God then on the other you say it does.
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Thirdly, the neuter word for 'one' which is hen can't prove that jesus is God at John 10:30 as it's also used for the apostles also being one with the Father and the Son at John 17:21-22.
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What difference does it make if it is neuter or not? Second the context in which these two accounts are TOTALLY different. You are ignoring the context.
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MF Blume made a highly insightful and intelligent comment upon this in another thread, he also said that you can't interpret John 10:30 in isolation from the rest of the Bible, so if being one with the Father at John 10:30 makes you YHWH, then the apostles are also YHWH at John 17:21-22.
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Nor can you confuse two different contexts